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michaelleung: Gabe Newell doesn't tend to start work until he finishes his thirtieth plate of waffles.
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Delixe: I was under the impression the waffles were only the appetiser?

LOL I love it when people start all these cruel rumours about poor old Gabe. I mean seriously. Gabe? Work? Are you trying to give the poor bastard a heart attack at the merest suggestion?
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michaelleung: It's not. It's actually 9 AM in the West coast.
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Delixe: Ah, I keep forgetting they are based in Washington. Probably was thinking of Stardock there.
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bansama: Valve don't tend to start work for another 40 odd minutes.
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michaelleung: Gabe Newell doesn't tend to start work until he finishes his thirtieth plate of waffles.
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michaelleung: I was under the impression the waffles were only the appetiser?

He probably eats cows whole. But let's not go into that.
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bansama: Valve don't tend to start work for another 40 odd minutes.
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michaelleung: Gabe Newell doesn't tend to start work until he finishes his thirtieth plate of waffles.

Great...now I'm stuck at work and craving waffles.
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anjohl: I can state quite unecquivocably that that very assumption would be a *very* dangerous mistake. I have rarely met anyone that can hold court with me on *any* relevant issue which requires philosophical, logical, or analytical ability to debate. Though I despise the false prophet of humility, I am not bragging here, I am expositing. As I said to Banana, it's a grave error to draw a conclusion or trust an impression when the quantity (and quality) of information you possess is scant.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: Yes, I agree, you're so well informed that you even know how to spell the names of people that you're putting down correctly!
It's bansama, not banana, unless there's someone named Banana on the forum that I haven't seen yet.

The last test I did, Mensa didn't have a spelling or typo section. Maybe you wrote an outdated test? Or perhaps you are talking out of your ass?
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anjohl: I can state quite unecquivocably that that very assumption would be a *very* dangerous mistake. I have rarely met anyone that can hold court with me on *any* relevant issue which requires philosophical, logical, or analytical ability to debate. Though I despise the false prophet of humility, I am not bragging here, I am expositing. As I said to Banana, it's a grave error to draw a conclusion or trust an impression when the quantity (and quality) of information you possess is scant.
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PhoenixWright: In other words, you hold the opinion that rarely will anyone hold court with you on *any* relevant issue which requires philosophical, logical, or analytical ability to debate. That's an opinion that any logical person would have kept to themselves as a formality of proper debate. Clearly you need more experience in order to learn how to conduct yourself in a respectable manner.

You must have missed the part where I stated that humility is not a virtue. If you operate under the social contract-inspired belief that humility *IS* a virtue, your comment makes sense. But under the existing parameters it sounds like a circular argument, which is what it is.
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anjohl: I can state quite unecquivocably that that very assumption would be a *very* dangerous mistake. I have rarely met anyone that can hold court with me on *any* relevant issue which requires philosophical, logical, or analytical ability to debate. Though I despise the false prophet of humility, I am not bragging here, I am expositing. As I said to Banana, it's a grave error to draw a conclusion or trust an impression when the quantity (and quality) of information you possess is scant.
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CaptainGyro: Ugh. I'm sorry, but you really sound full of yourself

Again, humility is not a virtue. If one posesses a talent for something, they do themsevles and everyone around them a disserviceby exhibiting outdated and obsolete humility. It made sense under feudalism or in a theocracy, but this epoch of history has no place for humility.
Post edited October 05, 2009 by anjohl
anjohl: There's something called social skills, which you seriously lack.
Delixe: Has Valve responded yet?
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: anjohl: There's something called social skills, which you seriously lack.
Delixe: Has Valve responded yet?

I am afraid not. Not so much as a "HAI". I am currently composing an angry blog post. That will show em. :p
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Delixe: I am afraid not. Not so much as a "HAI". I am currently composing an angry blog post. That will show em. :p

That's too bad. Hopefully your blog post will show them who's boss. =)
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Delixe: I am afraid not. Not so much as a "HAI". I am currently composing an angry blog post. That will show em. :p
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: That's too bad. Hopefully your blog post will show them who's boss. =)

I'm starting to think I wont get a reply until Valve have sorted the problem out to their own satisfaction. Just because they have a clause in their T&C's that allow them to stop a service at any time does not make it ethical. Many companies employ dogmatic T&C's to protect themselves but Valve is the first company I have ever seen actually use them to justify a poor service.
Like I said it's common practice for companies to inform customers when their accounts will be suspended and the reason for it. This is why people leave company x for company y and why companies have to keep their standards high or lose customers to rivals. Steam does not have that issue as I can't just leave and take my games with me.
I'm sure my blog will be used the same way as the thousands of other blogs that complain about Steam. Gabe has them printed out then he uses them as cheap toilet paper.
Ouch.
Painful toilet paper unless he somehow prints it on really soft paper....
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: That's too bad. Hopefully your blog post will show them who's boss. =)
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Delixe: I'm starting to think I wont get a reply until Valve have sorted the problem out to their own satisfaction. Just because they have a clause in their T&C's that allow them to stop a service at any time does not make it ethical. Many companies employ dogmatic T&C's to protect themselves but Valve is the first company I have ever seen actually use them to justify a poor service.
Like I said it's common practice for companies to inform customers when their accounts will be suspended and the reason for it. This is why people leave company x for company y and why companies have to keep their standards high or lose customers to rivals. Steam does not have that issue as I can't just leave and take my games with me.
I'm sure my blog will be used the same way as the thousands of other blogs that complain about Steam. Gabe has them printed out then he uses them as cheap toilet paper.

Overzealous T&Cs don't mean shit legally anyway. In fact, it can backfire quite dramatically. Especially if there is a clause that lets them amend the T&Cs without consent. Which there almost certainly is.
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Virama: Ouch.
Painful toilet paper unless he somehow prints it on really soft paper....

Gabe has a special printer that uses Andrex as paper.
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Navagon: Overzealous T&Cs don't mean shit legally anyway. In fact, it can backfire quite dramatically. Especially if there is a clause that lets them amend the T&Cs without consent. Which there almost certainly is.

I think they all do, Valve are still the first company that have been so ballsy in using them though.
Post edited October 05, 2009 by Delixe
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CaptainGyro: Ugh. I'm sorry, but you really sound full of yourself

"Again, humility is not a virtue. If one posesses a talent for something, they do themsevles and everyone around them a disserviceby exhibiting outdated and obsolete humility. It made sense under feudalism or in a theocracy, but this epoch of history has no place for humility."
It's fine not being humble if you're claims of yourself are true, but personally I don't believe your claims. I believe you THINK you win in most matters of logic/analysis, but in reality don't win. but whatever, I think you're kind of silly/annoying, and don't even want to bother to "hold court" because I see no point in arguing in depth here with a guy who think he's right about everything
Edit- I screwed up that quote and am too lazy to fix it properly
Post edited October 05, 2009 by CaptainGyro
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anjohl: You must have missed the part where I stated that humility is not a virtue. If you operate under the social contract-inspired belief that humility *IS* a virtue, your comment makes sense. But under the existing parameters it sounds like a circular argument, which is what it is.

You seem to be under the misconception that there aren't ten million people just like you who think they are smarter than everyone else. Being arrogant is fine when you can back it up and I'm not calling you stupid, but you need to learn that while the average citizen standing on the corner is lacking in higher thought, that doesn't mean the capacity for higher thought is unique within you.
Also, as someone else said, your social skills are what need work. You remind me of the home schooled kids I see walking into my college classrooms who are above average in what they have learned and read, but completely lack the social skills needed as a foundation of that learning in order to present it properly.
Post edited October 05, 2009 by StingingVelvet
anjohl: try this website:
[url=]http://www.wikihow.com/Be-Humble[/url]
I quite like number 8:
Don't be afraid to defer to others' judgment. It's easy to acknowledge that you make mistakes and that you're not always right. Somewhat more difficult however, is the ability to acknowledge that in many cases other people--even people who disagree with you--may be right. Deferring to your spouse's wishes, to a law you don't agree with, or even, sometimes, to your child's opinion takes your recognition of your limitations to a different level. Instead of simply saying that you know that you're fallible, you take action based on that fact. Of course, if you know that a particular course of action is wrong, you shouldn't follow it. On closer inspection, though, you may realize that you don't actually know this as often as you think you do.
ANYWAY, I find the title of this thread pretty funny considering the events within. Let's get back to the real subject.... Steam sucks. And...?
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anjohl: Again, humility is not a virtue. If one posesses a talent for something, they do themsevles and everyone around them a disserviceby exhibiting outdated and obsolete humility. It made sense under feudalism or in a theocracy, but this epoch of history has no place for humility.
Kiss my ass. :D
I have no clue what you're talking about, or even what this fight is related to, but this kind of pompous, arrogant attitude coming from some one other than myself? I just can't stand it.