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Hmmm,...do replicants count as androids?

Because I would date those...(see attached image 1)

And if replicants don't count, I'd date Cherry 2000...(see attached image 2)

;o)
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awalterj: A more interesting question would be: Would you keep dating an android after finding out he/she is an android?
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Telika: http://xkcd.com/632/ :-(
Haha! Can't imagine this would happen to anyone for real though unless the person has severe cognitive dissonance issues in which case anything is possible. Even if humanity isn't getting any smarter, I haven't met any people who are (quite) as dumb as Cleverbot , here's a screencap of a 'conversation' I had with it:
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Cormoran: 2) The LGBT community don't strictly meet the second criteria, yet they date.
The feelings they have towards the same sex are coopted procreation urges/desires. This is not to disparage the lifestyle choice, but people must understand that the entire point of orgasm, and the reason it is the most pleasurable thing you can do is to make sure men have sex with women as much as possible. Homosexuality, and to a lesser extent, female orgasm, are vestigial co-adaptation.
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anjohl: And to those who claim that once we can map out the electronic surges that supposedly enable consciousness and thought, that we can make androids that are conscious and self-aware, I say that you are not giving evolution enough credit.
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Wishbone: There is more than one way of designing. If true AI is ever to be realized, I think we'll do it the same way nature did it, by evolution.
Just like a game, going from "alpha" to "beta" and later to "full" :P

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Lionel212008: Perhaps, what are human beings other than tastefully wrapped layers of skin?...if organic body parts are replaced by bionic equivalents in the future, do we cease to be human?.....would you consider a decomposing pile of organic tissue human?
That is one of the question that arises in "Ghost in the Shell".
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Nice_Boat: Speaking seriously, a future where dating androids is a common thing is, thinking more deeper on it, like a really dark era for the humanity. We spent timeless hours, weeks, months, some years, finding our perfect partner. In this path some people get better socially to meet some standards society asks for (a bad way in my opinion, but that's not the matter right now), some others just try harder or wait to get the person they want being themselves... and other people just get rejected over and over again and develop hate against the world.
Not my case. I have a girlfriend.
Seriously. Her name is... Erhm... Edith Postlater.
And she's fucking amazing. I love her.
Shut up, shut the fuck up voices.

Erhm... what I was talking about... oh yeah...
We all have been rejected once time in our life, except Duke Nukem, and as Nietzsche said (thanks to Arcanum now I can address this phrase), what doesn't kill us make us stronger. But... what would happen in a world where, if you are rejected, you could just get off with an android? you could gave your back to the rest of the world and just live in a false ilusion of love with a machine?

Love, cute moments? Whenever I want.
Support? Whenever I want.
Sex? Whenever I want.

Who cares about those problematic men/women?
Who cares about humans at all?
I'll get an easy life with an android that won't fuck me over while choosing which film to see at the cinema.

It seems like a great idea for a futuristic dystopia, but not as a great one, I imagine all the people being recluded in a fantasy world in their mind, being all alone by themselves sorrounded by human-like machines.
Well this enters in the "philosophy" area, but "love" could be an illusion, doesn´t matter if it´s a machine, human, animal, or space amoeba. Love could be just an illusion created by your chemical reactions that assess a person and triggers a state of mind :P
Post edited February 11, 2014 by LoboBlanco
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tinyE: I gotta be honest, when A_Future_Pilot started this thread I thought he might be on something and the conversation wouldn't gain any traction, but look at this bad boy! Color me very impressed! The coolest thing is that (unless I missed something) with all these posts no one has started a fight. I guess there is hope for us after all. :D
I got suspicious already.............................in any event, I´m siding with the androids :P

By the way, you made me recall some movie, where someone said the characteristic that defines "humanity" is "hope" :D
....ergo....you must be human. :D
I don't think my wife would approve.
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Wishbone: There is more than one way of designing. If true AI is ever to be realized, I think we'll do it the same way nature did it, by evolution.
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LoboBlanco: Just like a game, going from "alpha" to "beta" and later to "full" :P
Uhm, no. A game doesn't go from alpha to beta on its own. Any changes made to a game are made by programmers, not by the game itself.
Hm, well for me that would depend on whether or not androids would be limited to strictly human design, If I'm to consider choosing artificial over a real, I'd want something that's a bit more... fantastical.
Post edited February 11, 2014 by LoboBlanco
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ReynardFox: Hm, well for me that would depend on whether or not androids would be limited to strictly human design, If I'm to consider choosing artificial over a real, I'd want something that's a bit more... fantastical.
I guess that would depend on what "strictly human design" means

If by that do you mean limited to what a "real" person would look like or what passes as human in other media like anime where there is a chance eyes could make an owl go "Damn those eyes are big!" (if an owl could talk)
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Telika: http://xkcd.com/632/ :-(
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awalterj: Haha! Can't imagine this would happen to anyone for real though unless the person has severe cognitive dissonance issues in which case anything is possible. Even if humanity isn't getting any smarter, I haven't met any people who are (quite) as dumb as Cleverbot , here's a screencap of a 'conversation' I had with it:
Cleverbot is a dweller of the Earth, thus, your house is indeed in its house :D
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LoboBlanco: Just like a game, going from "alpha" to "beta" and later to "full" :P
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Wishbone: Uhm, no. A game doesn't go from alpha to beta on its own. Any changes made to a game are made by programmers, not by the game itself.
HAL9000 then.
Post edited February 11, 2014 by LoboBlanco
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awalterj: Haha! Can't imagine this would happen to anyone for real though unless the person has severe cognitive dissonance issues in which case anything is possible. Even if humanity isn't getting any smarter, I haven't met any people who are (quite) as dumb as Cleverbot , here's a screencap of a 'conversation' I had with it:
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LoboBlanco: Cleverbot is a dweller of the Earth, thus, your house is indeed in its house :D
Cleverbot lives in London UK and I live waaay across the channel, so I don't quite see how my house can be inside Cleverbot's house (=server building), or any other house for that matter?
But my issue was that Cleverbot claimed that its house is in its house which makes no sense whatsoever. I stopped talking to Cleverbot after that, you might as well talk to your toaster.
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ReynardFox: Hm, well for me that would depend on whether or not androids would be limited to strictly human design, If I'm to consider choosing artificial over a real, I'd want something that's a bit more... fantastical.
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Rusty_Gunn: I guess that would depend on what "strictly human design" means

If by that do you mean limited to what a "real" person would look like or what passes as human in other media like anime where there is a chance eyes could make an owl go "Damn those eyes are big!" (if an owl could talk)
I think he meant something like this, I don't know, it's a hunch ;P
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LoboBlanco: Cleverbot is a dweller of the Earth, thus, your house is indeed in its house :D
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awalterj: Cleverbot lives in London UK and I live waaay across the channel, so I don't quite see how my house can be inside Cleverbot's house (=server building), or any other house for that matter?
But my issue was that Cleverbot claimed that its house is in its house which makes no sense whatsoever. I stopped talking to Cleverbot after that, you might as well talk to your toaster.
Haha, yeah I know, I guess Cleverbot may be kinda concerned with its privacy and when you asked about its whereabouts, resorted to paradoxes ;P
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A_Future_Pilot: Me and my friends have been having this debate. They've been making fun of me because I said that assuming a female android was attractive and sentient, her being an android wouldn't be any kind of deal breaker for me. So here's my question:

Would you date an android? Why or why not? What do you think would be some pros and cons?
I sure would.
Pro: She'll always be hot. :D
Con: Shes sentinent mixed with a computer intelligence. Which leads to the much more interesting question:

Why would a very attractive, computer intelligent, probably super(machine) strong, forever young, sentinent woman would even consider to date me?