Clever! :) Especially as AFAIK, the audio was originally recorded in Polish.

Lehti, I won't judge you at all. Again, its just a personal preference and although I am much more sensitive to profanity and certain displays of sexuality, I am no prude by any stretch of the imagination. I really do want to enjoy Witcher 1 because of its really cool RPG elements but it is also a personal decision to either walk away from it (unless it was modded) or try and stomach the profanity. I may be over-reacting, but I am just trying to be true to myself :)

I don't want to seem like a hypocrite because I will probably pick up Gears of War 3 which will most likely have profanity, but I think my main argument is HOW designers use 'Adult' themes tastefully and logically to reflect a more nuanced and realistic mirror of reality. A fine balance between the profane and innocence (of which reality is composed of both) perhaps?

So, while I will probably pick up Gears of War 3, I might hesitate to pick up Bulletstorm because of the way they use way too much needless profanity in that one. Its just harder to discern these days what to buy because Adult content in games and entertainment are handled in many different ways.

Very true. I think that understanding the source material is necessary to appreciate the product. Literature is entirely underrated these days, IMO. Gratuity has its place sometimes (Starship Troopers).

EDIT: No, not IMO. Its a fact.

I, for one, cannot imagine Geralt blurting out "By Bilbo's Blasted Boxers" or anything similar...

I mean, look at him. His Geralt of Rivia, the famous white wolf. Of course he swears.

And when dwarfs cuss at someone, it just is their nature. They are no fairytale dwarfs, they are heavily discriminated, angry and very hardheaded race.

The thing is: Sapkowski was born in 1948. From what I hear, I presume he's stuck in the mentality of late 1970s and 1980s Poland, and so are his books. Fair enough. But in adaptations, of all kinds, it is perfectly valid (and I'd even say required) to look at the source material critically, from your current perspective (because you're making your adaptation for a contemporary audience, naturally), and consider the possibility of tweaking it to fit the new context. And this is where I believe the game fails. At least for me, a thoroughly post-modern person who drank from the poisoned cup of equality and feminism and all that. The mindset is unacceptable to me, that's all there is to it.

One thing to stress, though: CDProjekt RED of course was free to choose the route they did with the adaptation. There's nothing inherently wrong with that. I'm just pointing out that as far as I'm concerned, it was a mistake.

And one last point: the word is used quite liberally here, and I believe the core issue is a misunderstanding of its definition. To me, "mature" is a mindset. Not tits.

Hahahah, yeah. Imagine a Witcher game with a Geralt that doesn't sleep with women, and says "By Bilbo's Blasted Boxers" when he is pissed off. And Triss is a rainbow princess sorceress. Geralt also has a sidekick named Stumpy that saves him once in awhile but other than that, he is pretty much useless.

Over-react much? I was only asking if they had a patch, MOD, or if there was a censored version out there. The discussion of this thread then turned to the merits of adding 'Adult' content tastefully, etc. If ya can't stand the heat, get out of tha kitchen. AND I AM THE KING OF THE WORLD, BOW BEFORE ME.

Man, you are a total opposite of me :)

I understand that, (wait for it) however as long as they were trying to represent the source material why would they provide a version neutered of what they consider (even if they're wrong) essential?

I completely agree with your "mature" statement. I think those games should just be rated tits.

I just love the game the way it is. And if you are the king of the world, then I am the emperor of the universe. :P

Now if we were only at a public urinal instead of a forum we could end this pissing contest.

I don't have kids, yet. But when I do, I wouldn't mind having certain precautions just in case I want to play an 'Adult' game. That is another straw-man argument you thrust out there. Don't you think that ADULTS have kids?! So why not 'pander' to the a good majority of your adult audience that do have kids and are sensitive to what you want them exposed to at a young age and place a simple option to remove the profanity and sex scenes? I mean, isn't the idea of options behind games these days? If a game designer can add a bajillion options for graphics settings, surely they can add an option in the game to remove the more 'Adult' crap. By the way, I hope that you can one day grasp that Adult content and mature themes are completely different things and what goes for Adult these days is sensationalist crap that is lazily added on for sales.

If you REALLY like the Witcher's adult content so much (profanity and tasteless sex scenes and misogyny), why don't you download the awesomely adult Leisure Suit Larry game that just came out to RAVE reviews! Or, better yet, download the Playboy Mansion game and get yo freak on!

I repent that I ever implied that Lehti was a porno-freak (sorry, 'twas just teasing), that description fits you to a 'T.'

See now that's the very problem with the games industry. We have developers scared to use sex and bad language because they want to sell their games to the widest possible audience including kids. You only have to look at the dwindling amount of mature content in Bioware's games over the year.

We have over 18 movies, we have music that's not to be sold to minors so it baffles me we can't have games that are restricted to a certain age group. The Witcher should not be censored because the novels it's based on are not. If you are offended by the content then play something else because family friendly games are a dime a dozen these days.

Lol, I get your point, and I would definitely apply your patch to the game. "Triss, I want to PANCAKE you."

I think you are right, I am out of luck on that and I shouldn't expect them redo all their audio just because a few fans of the RPG elements in their game complain about the stream of useless profanity used in the game. I just hope that in the future they could find a creative way to have that option, or AT LEAST have the profanity used more tastefully and not just strewn everywhere in the game. I still have a bone to pick that the bad-ass Witcher would say anything remotely to "Abso-f*cking-lutely." When I heard him say that I just slapped my forehead and sighed. That sounded like something a high-schooler would say.

Oh well. I hope in the future that designers have an option to tone down the more overt Adult stuff and at least think of ways to incorporate the stuff more strategically and tastefully. I think video-games still have a ways to go before they are really looked upon as mature and grown-up because big ol' t*****s and cursing up a storm does not make a game mature it just makes it look silly if not done right. Maybe the Witcher 2 was done better in that area?