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SirPrimalform: 8 bad, 7 good, Vista bad, XP good, 2000/ME bad, 98SE good, 98 bad, 95 good.
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jjsimp: Don't lump 2000 with Me or any of the other broken OS. I still prefer it to XP. I still service many computers with it and would rather mess wirh it than any other OS except for Windows 7.
Yeah, I always liked 2000 - it was basically XP without the fischer price skin. Although the version I had did have problems with large (over 160GB) hard drives.

Windows 7 is still my OS of choice; I'm hoping 9 will basically be 7 but with native support for higher end hardware.
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pds41: Windows 7 is still my OS of choice; I'm hoping 9 will basically be 7 but with native support for higher end hardware.
And don't forget bringing back a choice of start menus without using a third party program. I want a sane start menu choice and not that monstrosity that is in 8.
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Wishbone: You know what's worse than Metro on a desktop? Metro on a server! The stupid bastards actually put Metro in Windows Server 2012 (which I guess is basically the server version of Windows 8). It is not pleasant to work with, let me tell you.
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AndrewC: Powershell, you speak it? Not usually a fan of going all "command line uber alles" but when it comes to server administration, the less of the GUI I see the better.
Unfortunately, my work on the servers in question have nothing to do with administration. I can't really do command-line software development. Well, I suppose I could, but it would take about 50 times as long to do.
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Red_Avatar: Really ? I haven't had any problems with 8 running games except for one single game I believe - on the other hand, some games work in Win8 that had trouble in Win Vista and 7 for some reason. All GOG games work just fine that I tried. What are those games by the way? I'd like to try them myself.
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timppu: At least the last time I tried it, I think Haegemonia Gold Edition refused to run on Windows 8 (and runs fine on Windows 7 on the very same PC, using same driver versions). I think the intro etc. run fine, but either when you enter the menu, or try to start the game, the game crashed. And other users seemed to confirm that, I didn't hear anyone running it successfully in Windows 8. I haven't checked the subforum if someone has found a solution, but that still means that it doesn't work the same both in Windows 7 and 8.

EDIT: Reading the subforum, I am unsure if this is a working (rather dirty) fix for the Win8 compatibility:

http://www.gog.com/forum/haegemonia_gold_edition/solution_widescreen_on_windows_8

http://www.gog.com/forum/haegemonia_gold_edition/will_not_run_on_windows_8

Heck, I hope this works too, it would be the most straightforward solution: http://www.gog.com/forum/haegemonia_gold_edition/crash_on_launch
I actually bought the game to try that (I liked it originally anyway) and it runs just fine, without zero fiddling.

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timppu: Also, Gothic and apparently a bunch of other games have visual glitch (window borders showing in full screen mode), but there are some manual instructions how to overcome that.

I recall also reading some other game here which refuses to run on Windows 8 (while running fine on Win 7), but I don't recall which it is and I never confirmed it myself.

I think the games that benefit from Win8 are those oldies that had problems with Vista/7 Aero (the rainbow color problem?), but that was so widely known already with various different workarounds that seem to work for all such problematic games. But it is certainly nice if those workarounds are not needed anymore in 8.
That's all rather vague. Personally, I play a lot of oldies and found no big difference between the two - in fact, I think I didn't find a single game that refused to run with no workaround. I'd still like some concrete examples so I can investigate them.
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AndrewC: Powershell, you speak it? Not usually a fan of going all "command line uber alles" but when it comes to server administration, the less of the GUI I see the better.
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Wishbone: Unfortunately, my work on the servers in question have nothing to do with administration. I can't really do command-line software development. Well, I suppose I could, but it would take about 50 times as long to do.
Then I honestly don't see the problem. Is your IDE running in Metro mode or something? :) Besides, if you're targeting that server in 99% of the cases you can do just that, run the app on the server and collect the logs remotely if needed.
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Wishbone: Unfortunately, my work on the servers in question have nothing to do with administration. I can't really do command-line software development. Well, I suppose I could, but it would take about 50 times as long to do.
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AndrewC: Then I honestly don't see the problem. Is your IDE running in Metro mode or something? :) Besides, if you're targeting that server in 99% of the cases you can do just that, run the app on the server and collect the logs remotely if needed.
That's not really how it works. I'm not going to go into details about my work, but I do development and configuration in various GUI tools for a specific customer at the moment, and it all takes place on one of their servers.
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Leroux: I might try that tonight, thanks!
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pds41: I normally try nGlide (http://www.zeus-software.com/downloads/nglide); it works quite well on my 64bit Windows 7 rig.
Running it in a glide wrapper made the scrolling much smoother, so it seems we can scratch Diablo 2 off the list of games incompatible with Win8, it just requires a little tweaking. Thanks again! :)

But now I remember another game that appears to be incompatible to Win8, namely Still Life. I only get a black screen when I run it. This GOG user reports that the support staff said it was incompatible to Win8, too, but suggests a workaround using a virtual machine with WinXP or 7 as OS. Sounds pretty complicated though, unless I misunderstand what a virtual machine is. Would this require owning and installing the OS in question?

I also stumbled across this list of GOG games supposedly incompatible to Win8 for reference. It's more than a year old, so it might not be up to date in all cases. It would be interesting to hear from someone who tested a few of them on Win8.
Post edited January 15, 2014 by Leroux
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Leroux: Would this require owning and installing the OS in question?
Yes.
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Leroux: Would this require owning and installing the OS in question?
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triock: Yes.
Yeah, then it's as I feared, complicated. Anyway, I just got Still Life to run on Win8, too, but only by applying the inofficial (and probably illegal) Vista patch. The patch I downloaded was in French, and luckily my installation of Still Life is, too. No idea if it would work on all language versions.
Post edited January 15, 2014 by Leroux
Just throwing out some ideas of what might happen. Take this with half a kilo of salt and grain.

This year:

-Windows Phone 8.1 announced at Build. = includes an almost complete subset of Windows Runtime ported to WP.
-Windows Runtime for Xbox One announced at Build. = includes a subset of Windows Runtime ported to Xbox One.
-Windows 8.1 Update 1 announced at Build. = improves compatibility of Windows Runtime with the versions soon to be found on WP and XO.
-Devs have one account to manage for making Windows and Windows Phone apps. Soon, they will have another for -Xbox One, which would in the near future be merged in to the first one, to reduce redundancy.
-A unified Store announced for Windows, Windows Phone, and Xbox One apps.

Further down the line for Windows 9's release:

-Windows 9 announced = further improving Windows Runtime.
-Windows ARM replaces Windows Phone and includes exact Windows Runtime distribution as the x86 version.
-XO soon receives update to properly support the new features of Windows Runtime.
-C# 6.0 is released, along with the next Visual Studio, and cloud based compilation of things Visual Studio Online vNext or whatever they call it (awesomeness as awesome as it can get).
-Surface 3 or 4 is released (2 has been selling quite good, hard to find it in stock most of the times).
-New system-level programming language is officially announced, bringing the productivity and ease of use of C# and the performance of C++ (they are already working on this).

And one can only dream, the unified Store is also compatible with XO.
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triock: Yes.
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Leroux: Yeah, then it's as I feared, complicated. Anyway, I just got Still Life to run on Win8, too, but only by applying the inofficial (and probably illegal) Vista patch. The patch I downloaded was in French, and luckily my installation of Still Life is, too. No idea if it would work on all language versions.
You might want to try installing ReactOS in a VM, it aims to be Windows XP/2003 compatible (and while some parts are based on Wine, the OS is not Linux/Unix based, but made to mirror Windows as much as possible, so I believe it's more compatible than Wine), and while it's not a 100% Windows replacement yet, it might be worth a try for software that won't work well on more recent Windows versions.

EDIT: not you personally, you already have a solution that works for you, but one idea for others.
Post edited January 15, 2014 by Maighstir
Dream windows 9 = as light and fast as XP, as simple and elegant as 7

current solution - windows 7 lite :P

Srsly, i don't find use for almost 70% of the crap the vanilla windows come with, thank god for lite versions...
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Red_Avatar: I actually bought the game to try that (I liked it originally anyway) and it runs just fine, without zero fiddling.
It is certainly possible GOG has fixed it later, just like they should. I still have it installed on Windows 8, so I'll try this:

- See whether the current installation still fails to run.
- See if it is possible to run it with e.g. running the exe directly, as someone suggested
- Uninstall it, and download&install again the latest GOG version, whether it works this time.

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timppu: Also, Gothic and apparently a bunch of other games have visual glitch (window borders showing in full screen mode), but there are some manual instructions how to overcome that.
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Red_Avatar: That's all rather vague. Personally, I play a lot of oldies and found no big difference between the two - in fact, I think I didn't find a single game that refused to run with no workaround. I'd still like some concrete examples so I can investigate them.
I don't think there was anything vague about the Gothic example. I read about it earlier (from Arkose, I think), and faced the same issue last June when I installed Gothic on Windows 8. But I also found the instructions how to overcome the issue, which worked for me.

Again, it may be possible GOG has fixed that too afterwards (ie. applied those workarounds needed in Windows 8).
Post edited January 15, 2014 by timppu
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timppu: It is certainly possible GOG has fixed it later, just like they should. I still have it installed on Windows 8, so I'll try this:

- See whether the current installation still fails to run.
- See if it is possible to run it with e.g. running the exe directly, as someone suggested
- Uninstall it, and download&install again the latest GOG version, whether it works this time.
GOG's updated installer is signed October 11, 2013 so it was posted somewhere around then. I installed this one on Windows 8.1 and it works perfectly.

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timppu: I don't think there was anything vague about the Gothic example. I read about it earlier (from Arkose, I think), and faced the same issue last June when I installed Gothic on Windows 8. But I also found the instructions how to overcome the issue, which worked for me.

Again, it may be possible GOG has fixed that too afterwards (ie. applied those workarounds needed in Windows 8).
GOG have updated the installers for Gothic, Gothic II and some other games with the fullscreen border issue.
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Elmofongo: I personally find it too early for a new Windows give it 2 or 3 years at least.
Sheesh, yeah. Windows XP lasted 5 years. :P