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So I often read comments about people complaining about older game not on gog. Well

I spoke the gog staff about this a while ago and they said the the biggest issues with older games is the legal proceedings. Getting the license and rights to sell old games is hard because the old publishers that made those games went under and the rights to the IP bounce around from place to place.

As much as I too want to see older games here if the publishers aren't willing to grant the permits to sell their IP, there's not much gog can do about it. You can however find out who is doing permission and send said company a few emails. And if that doesn't work you can always spam them with porn XD
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Magmarock:
I feel like I read somewhere that GOG has been releasing more games than it used to.

It appears as though they release more "indie" over old, though I'm not sure if that is statistically accurate.
1. There aren't less older games appearing on GOG. This has been shown numerous times by simply listing the latest releases. I'm afraid that your thread title is spreading an unfounded rumor.

2. Your post restates things that are common knowledge here. I'm not quite sure why you had to ask a GOG official about these things, nor why you think that opening the umpteenth thread about this seemed like a good idea.

That said, I agree with your conclusion.
The ratio of new games to old games has been increasing substantially, which is why it feels that way. However, they're still releasing 1-3 old games each week, so it only FEELS like that. When I joined, it was 1 game on Tuesday and another on Thursday, and even then lots of games were post-2005. Now we generally get 2 on Tues, 2 on Thurs, and often extra releases at other times as well. Several of those are still old games. In the last week we've gotten Bioforge and Dangerous Dave.

So there aren't fewer older games, there are just more newer games.
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Because they are trying to compete with the other Steamabes like Impulse and Gamersgate now, because a bunch of well-meaning idiots voted that they would like non Good Old Games on here, and more price points.

Funny, there havn't been any price points LESS than $5.99, and games still don't go on sale to the degree that they do on Steam.

I guess the real questions were:
1) "Will you pay more for games on Gog.com?"
2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
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anjohl: 2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
You mean, will you buy DRM free indie games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere. Yeah, you are paying more for some GOGs but they are DRM free.
Post edited October 31, 2012 by langurmonkey
That is an issue I'm starting to see more and more here. There are quite a few indie games that normally sell for $5 or less that we won't ever see here because GOG's baseline is $6. Prices higher are fine, but any lower and I guess they see it as cheapening a product.

Two examples that come to mind right away are WizOrb and the Breath of Death VII/Cthulhu Saves the World bundle. Both have a default price of about $3, and because of that, I doubt we will ever see them come here. I do wish GOG's opening of price points will truly open up for lower priced items, and not just higher ones someday.
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anjohl: Because they are trying to compete with the other Steamabes like Impulse and Gamersgate now, because a bunch of well-meaning idiots voted that they would like non Good Old Games on here, and more price points.

Funny, there havn't been any price points LESS than $5.99, and games still don't go on sale to the degree that they do on Steam.

I guess the real questions were:
1) "Will you pay more for games on Gog.com?"
2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"

Hey if it means no DRM hell yeah.
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anjohl: Because they are trying to compete with the other Steamabes like Impulse and Gamersgate now, because a bunch of well-meaning idiots voted that they would like non Good Old Games on here, and more price points.

Funny, there havn't been any price points LESS than $5.99, and games still don't go on sale to the degree that they do on Steam.

I guess the real questions were:
1) "Will you pay more for games on Gog.com?"
2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
I think most games that would sell for less than $5.99 end up being bundled together or not brought here at all. I know that you can get Dangerous Dave for less over at Flatrock Software, but only if you buy an individual episode, The better price is if you buy it in sets of 3 episodes.

Also, when you go below about $5 more and more of the sale goes to credit card processing fees making it less and less cost effective for them to sell and support.
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Garugo: Two examples that come to mind right away are WizOrb and the Breath of Death VII/Cthulhu Saves the World bundle. Both have a default price of about $3, and because of that, I doubt we will ever see them come here. I do wish GOG's opening of price points will truly open up for lower priced items, and not just higher ones someday.
It's called promos.

I'm pretty sure that's the main way they can get people to buy games like this:

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/personal_nightmare

Or this:

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/simon_the_sorcerer_3d

Heck, I vaguely recall getting the former at around 2$ and after playing it for an hour, I can tell you that I overpaid.

I'm sure some people would consider 6$ a fair price for that game, it's just that they are very far on the right of the normal curve.
Hey look, it's this thread again. :)
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anjohl: Because they are trying to compete with the other Steamabes like Impulse and Gamersgate now, because a bunch of well-meaning idiots voted that they would like non Good Old Games on here, and more price points.

Funny, there havn't been any price points LESS than $5.99, and games still don't go on sale to the degree that they do on Steam.

I guess the real questions were:
1) "Will you pay more for games on Gog.com?"
2" Will you buy indy games on here for 1.5-3 times as much as elsewhere?"
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hedwards: I think most games that would sell for less than $5.99 end up being bundled together or not brought here at all. I know that you can get Dangerous Dave for less over at Flatrock Software, but only if you buy an individual episode, The better price is if you buy it in sets of 3 episodes.

Also, when you go below about $5 more and more of the sale goes to credit card processing fees making it less and less cost effective for them to sell and support.
Sure, but don't ask me if I want "different" price points if you mean "higher". And don't ask me if I want "other types of games" if what you mean is "Do you want to pay more for indy games that have been discounted by 80-90% of the GOG list price elsewhere for several years now?".

I just hate the framing CDP used in that survey. In a Trojan-like move, they completely transformed GOG into something a great number of the respondents do not support, with their support.

"He will bring them death, and they will love him for it"
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anjohl: Sure, but don't ask me if I want "different" price points if you mean "higher". And don't ask me if I want "other types of games" if what you mean is "Do you want to pay more for indy games that have been discounted by 80-90% of the GOG list price elsewhere for several years now?".

I just hate the framing CDP used in that survey. In a Trojan-like move, they completely transformed GOG into something a great number of the respondents do not support, with their support.

"He will bring them death, and they will love him for it"
I thought they meant price points between $5.99 and $9.99 and possibly above. I can't think of very many games that are good and that aren't worth even $5.99. Especially if you're getting goodies and compatibility fixes as well.

I think the surveys were sort of something to pin things on. I don't think there was any way of expanding like they have without losing focus on the older games. And plenty of the newer games couldn't be sold here for less than $9.99
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anjohl: I just hate the framing CDP used in that survey. In a Trojan-like move, they completely transformed GOG into something a great number of the respondents do not support, with their support.
Hey, do me a favour and keep your dumb opinions out my mouth, yeah? I hardly think a "great number" of people actually care about this nonsense. Just the loud ones.
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anjohl: Sure, but don't ask me if I want "different" price points if you mean "higher". And don't ask me if I want "other types of games" if what you mean is "Do you want to pay more for indy games that have been discounted by 80-90% of the GOG list price elsewhere for several years now?".

I just hate the framing CDP used in that survey. In a Trojan-like move, they completely transformed GOG into something a great number of the respondents do not support, with their support.
You are talking complete nonsense, and judging from your previous attempts at trolling, you probably know it and enjoy it. Which is rather pathetic imho, but to each his own ...

They didn't ask for "different" price points in the survey. They asked if people wanted DRM-free _newer_ games on GOG, and _then_ they asked us how much such a DRM-free newer game should cost, after getting the usual GOG treatment (compatibility, adding extras, etc.). IIRC you could then either choose or enter a number, I think it was a free answer field.

There was never any confusion as to what these questions meant. In the forum thread about the survey, one of the very first responses clearly states:
"I like where the survey is going toward the end. More recent games that are DRM free at higher prices please. DO IT."

Or, another response: I wish they'd had a qualification for Day 1 releases. I wouldn't mind buying smaller games like Trine or Machinarium here on release, since they usually cost less, but I'm not going to pay more than $19.99 for any game..

The same thread also shows overwhelming support for exactly this direction (some skepticism too, of course, but mostly support, which is exactly what GOG reported as well).

I would ask you to stop spreading false information if I had any hope of you actually listening, but since that's very unlikely to be the case, I'll just leave this clarification here so that people who haven't participated in the survey won't fall for your ... false information.
Post edited November 01, 2012 by Psyringe