Which part? :p

Mr. Gog only employs people who come with DRM. Mr. Gog is very fond of irony.

The title of this thread made me laugh. You make it sound like it's the worst thing they could ever do.

Personally, I think this whole thing is overblown. But than again, a lot is overblown on these forums. :)

"She wouldn't have said yes to begin with, so I raped her anyway."

You can justify and rationalize any deplorable, selfish, dumbass thing to get what you want. Kind of like you did.

Perhaps a while after release all the people who purchase the box copy will get a patch to remove the DRM? Still, lots want to complain.

Unlimited installs. On five machines. What am I missing here?

The bizarre sense of entitlement.

On this, we actually agree.

I'll take a stab at it:

1) "Perhaps" there will be a patch to remove the DRM. No guarantee on that anywhere that I've seen. I know it was patched out of Witcher 1, but there's no guarantee it will be on TW2, especially given Atari's track record (they being the publisher here in Canada).

2) CDP has made a big deal about their anti-DRM stance and we get... DRM with activations, the realization that you don't have the complete install on the retail disc (have to DL a 50MB file to activate the game - ask the people who were screwed by this on BioShock how good that sounds), and limited activations. Really makes that "We hate DRM" stance hold a lot of water. See my previous post for why i don't buy the "It's the publisher's fault" defense.

2a) Regarding the latter statement about activations. Sure, they said unlimited installs on unlimited computers. But they also say you can play on 'up to 5 machines'. The math here does not add up. And how are they tracking that you have it on 5 machines? When you install and activate, of course. So how are they tracking when you uninstall it? Guess you have to be on the internet - which they said you only need for installation. Guess that screws with people that have off-line machines (not interested in arguing about the amount that are not connected to the in internet. I personally have one rig for gaming that has no internet connection).

3) related to the last part above: internet activation. Not going to fly for those that don't have their rigs connected. Single player game + internet required = bullshit.

On a side note: my main gaming rig is connected to the internet and I had no intention of installing on more than 2 or 3 machines (one of which is not internet connected), but there's a principle involved here. I guess some are willing to overlook that. I'm not.

The only company I can trust to remove DRM after sale is Sega simply because they said they would and they did. I'm not saying other publishers wouldn't but it's a promise that has been made by many and broken so many times.

CDP released it here, on GOG.com DRM free. What is one thing that could possibly be stopping them from releasing it everywhere else DRM free?

A publisher!

Personally I've preordered the GOG version so this doesn't affect me.

But in general I'd be more concerned with how the deactivation process works. I refuse to buy products that have activation limits. I might loosen that up in the future to allow ones where there's a reasonable deactivation procedure, but it definitely concerns me that I would have to count on the company either providing a patch or not going out of business.

I got burned by that once.
http://xkcd.com/488/

Then why not push for at worst a simple disc check. Other AAA titles have done it (Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age:Origins). Other than that, I say "Put your money where your mouth is" and tell the publishers to shove it. Sell only on GOG then, if they won't agree to that.

Which would be a really stupid business move on the part of CDP. Sure, they would have the moral high ground, but who cares about the moral high ground if your product fails to sell? Taking a publisher out of the mix doesn't just mean no DRM, it also means no sales in retails stores or any other distribution outlet out there. So they compromised a bit, big deal, compromise is part of doing business. At least they did not completely capitulate and let the publishers put the most restrictive and invasive DRM they possibly could on the game.

Yeah, well all their statements about hating DRM ring as hollow as a vegan chef saying "Pay no attention to the leather-bound cookbook I'm selling".

*edit* Oh, and as far as the DRM goes, it's too invasive for my tastes, especially coming on a game by CDP, given their supposed views on DRM. Disk check? No issue. On-line activation, file DL to complete the install, and activation limits? Sorry, no dice.