Posted July 25, 2013
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SpaceManThe
Gods Child
Registered: May 2012
From United Kingdom
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Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
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pigdog
Snorts and Barks
Registered: May 2011
From United Kingdom
Posted July 25, 2013
It's really becoming a problem - surely serial down-reppers should be flagged up at GOG HQ. It's reached the point where I unhide nearly every post as I can't tell what's genuinely crap or just some petty grudge.
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rampancy
Think Different.
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted July 25, 2013
It's not just a case of serial downreppers though. It's people who think that their opinions/thoughts/beliefs are superior to everyone else's and can't fathom why anyone wouldn't think the way they do.
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Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
From Other
Posted July 25, 2013
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Apart from that, yeah your point is right on and it frustrates me when I ask why I got hit for something and they respond "Isn't it obvious?" Well no, it's not so obvious. Excuse me for considering the possibility that an opinion you disagree with doesn't automatically make that opinion offensive.
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Namur
Malkavian
Registered: Oct 2008
From Portugal
Posted July 25, 2013
Saying "i disagree with this" is one thing, saying " i disagree with this therefore the people here suck" seems to me to be siginifcantly different. You sure you want to talk aboput hostility ?
You jumped at the opportunity to throw in the air umbrella "community" accusations of radicalism and generalized suckage based on a reasoning completely devoid of objectivity, or honesty, when it comes to the bullshit relation you tried to establish between steam related content and summary downvotes. I adressed that lack of objectivity and honesty as i always do, bluntly, to the point and without the need to drag masses of silent and/or absent people to back me up.
Last time i checked, just like you, i too have the right to adress that which rubs me the wrong way and this new fad where whenever half a dozen people disagree on some bullshit and go at it this way or that way inevitably leads to the conclusion that "the community here sucks" does rub me the wrong way. Now as I'm not very happy about this development, what do you suggest I do, shut up about it? Or should i perhaps veiledly imply that should i leave at some point it will be your fault ? Again, you sure you want to talk about hostility ?
You want suggestions ? I have just the one. Complain about whatever it is you feel you have to complain about but do try to at least do it with a modicum ammount of objectivity and honesty.
You jumped at the opportunity to throw in the air umbrella "community" accusations of radicalism and generalized suckage based on a reasoning completely devoid of objectivity, or honesty, when it comes to the bullshit relation you tried to establish between steam related content and summary downvotes. I adressed that lack of objectivity and honesty as i always do, bluntly, to the point and without the need to drag masses of silent and/or absent people to back me up.
Last time i checked, just like you, i too have the right to adress that which rubs me the wrong way and this new fad where whenever half a dozen people disagree on some bullshit and go at it this way or that way inevitably leads to the conclusion that "the community here sucks" does rub me the wrong way. Now as I'm not very happy about this development, what do you suggest I do, shut up about it? Or should i perhaps veiledly imply that should i leave at some point it will be your fault ? Again, you sure you want to talk about hostility ?
You want suggestions ? I have just the one. Complain about whatever it is you feel you have to complain about but do try to at least do it with a modicum ammount of objectivity and honesty.
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Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted July 25, 2013
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No, I won't. Most of the time, I'm not trying to pass anything I say as objective, and when I do, it's when a sufficient amount of people came to a general consensus on an issue - and I'm sorry, such consensus doesn't work when talking about self, be it individual or a group. From what I've seen around here, I feel the reason for OP's downrating was fairly irrational hate of Steam trading cards. That's my honest opinion. You want subjectivity on an issue of social behaviour, well, you sure as heck aren't going to get it from me.
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Namur
Malkavian
Registered: Oct 2008
From Portugal
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Bad Hair Day
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Registered: Dec 2012
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Posted July 25, 2013
I just noticed after all this time the two people having the biggest fight in here are five star and four star. If everyone downrepped every post they made for a month you wouldn't even notice. :D
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Ltd. DeepSeeker
Registered: Jul 2011
From Norway
Posted July 25, 2013
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Apart from that, yeah your point is right on and it frustrates me when I ask why I got hit for something and they respond "Isn't it obvious?" Well no, it's not so obvious. Excuse me for considering the possibility that an opinion you disagree with doesn't automatically make that opinion offensive.
Of course people have different opinion, but a few attacks the person instead, and/or get offended by virtually nothing. I did however almost downrepped you once (in the royal baby thread), when you said something about "fuch you" and what not. Then I asked myself; "what`s gotten into him. Is he unstable or just fed up and just needed to blow off some steam" (no pun intended :P). It`s better to get it out too early then too late (yelling or shooting at people.)
And what do I know - you could both unstable for all I know. OCD/Tourets/ADHD/Senile/Mad scientist :P
But unless you directly attack someone verbally again and again or anything really hatefully, and mean it - then I would downrepp you. See, now you know where I stand. You can basically joke about almost anything for all I care ;)
But it`s wrong to persecute a person. i.e. follow that person based on one/few threads. UN48:
"This reaffirmed the dignity and worth of all human beings no matter what a person’s race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth, or other status. "
Maybe we Europeans are getting fascistically again... or just remaining passive aggressive :P
(Hmm... and I just realized I might often be in the latter category...)
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So basically, i disagree, you say degraded, i say different. Everything that made this community great it's still here inspite the things that are now new and are apparently causing you frustration. This however was to be expected with growth. You'll need to adjust, i guess, because things will never be as they were, communities are dynamic entities, troublesome as that realization may be.
There will always be someone that is targeted for some reason, but, the problem doesn`t go away just by scrubbing it under the carpet. But hey, you disagree, fine.
And yes, everything changes. As is should. Move along.
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dirtyharry50
WoW Addict
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted July 25, 2013
Sigh....