Posted February 02, 2010
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michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
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racebelly
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted February 02, 2010
I suspect he means the forums are full of fuckwad fanboy trolls.
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Everyone should play a malkavian but I don't think anyone should play it as their first character, its confusing enough a game as someone sane and at least with playing a malk the second time you kinda know whats going on
Post edited February 02, 2010 by Aliasalpha
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Red_Avatar
Be vigilant
Registered: Oct 2008
From Belgium
Posted February 02, 2010
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Everyone should play a malkavian but I don't think anyone should play it as their first character, its confusing enough a game as someone sane and at least with playing a malk the second time you kinda know whats going on
I played as a hot Malkavian chick the third time around and it's pretty funny. I should replay it again, now that it finally works again.
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted February 02, 2010
And pay careful attention to the tv, it knows things...
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TrIp13G
Three G's
Registered: Nov 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted February 02, 2010
All of the game-specific forums I've been on were very helpful, as well as containing intelligent conversation. Not everybody associated with Steam is a jackass or moron. (not that YOU said that, I meant that in response to your theory of what the other guy meant)
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drmlessgames
Dosbox l337
Registered: Mar 2009
From Peru
Posted February 02, 2010
As if i needed another reason to hate Valve. So true about not trusting companies that don't believe in deadlines. F*** "When it's done(tm)." Provide a release f***ing date.
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Maighstir
THIS KNIGHT MISLIKES THESE HEIGHTS
Registered: Nov 2008
From Sweden
Posted February 02, 2010
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On the other hand, if they hadn't been forced to a release date, the game might've been less buggy and had a more polished ending.
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drmlessgames
Dosbox l337
Registered: Mar 2009
From Peru
Posted February 02, 2010
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I meant it for companies that have the "upper hand" like Valve and 3dr. If their engines' customers are going to abide by a deadline, so should them.
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted February 02, 2010
Other companies licencing an engine in development should only have to pay half to start using the in development version and then pay the other half of the full licence fee when the engine is complete. That sort of thing would have given valve the time wasting money they wanted AND not fucked over troika as much
TrIp13G: All of the game-specific forums I've been on were very helpful, as well as containing intelligent conversation. Not everybody associated with Steam is a jackass or moron. (not that YOU said that, I meant that in response to your theory of what the other guy meant)
Oh yeah I'm sure there's plenty of helpful people around, I know they exist its just a matter of finding them and this IS the internet, grand enabler of the dipshit
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Oh yeah I'm sure there's plenty of helpful people around, I know they exist its just a matter of finding them and this IS the internet, grand enabler of the dipshit
Post edited February 02, 2010 by Aliasalpha
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 02, 2010
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Yeah, my first play-through was with a Malkavian, and it was interesting guessing WTF was actually going on. My second time through I played a Toreador, and I was amused several times where I had guessed incorrectly at what the Malkavian had been talking about. In terms of getting the overall plot, playing a Malkavian the first time through is fine, but to get the finer points, playing something else first might be prudent.
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destroyermaker
damaged lemon
Registered: Nov 2008
From Canada
Posted February 02, 2010
I liked this quote from writer Brian Mitsoda:
"Between lack of sleep, being overworked, and possessing an unhealthy state-of-mind, the conditions were ideal for writing the Malkavians."
"Between lack of sleep, being overworked, and possessing an unhealthy state-of-mind, the conditions were ideal for writing the Malkavians."
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Datajack2050
Om nom nom
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted February 02, 2010
I have still never once played Nosferatu, despite loving stealth games. It just seems a tad TOO restrictive.
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racebelly
New User
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted February 04, 2010
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I really enjoyed playing Malkavian female the first time through. I would like to go back and play it again as a different bloodline. But, there are too many other games to play right now (Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2, etc.). Hopefully in a few months.
I do want to try VTM: Redemption now that GOG has it. How does this one compare to Bloodlines?
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cogadh
Banned? Never.
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted February 04, 2010
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Two completely different kinds of games. Bloodlines is a FPS with some RPG elements. Redemption is a straight up third-person RPG. Some people have been drawing comparisons between Redemption and games like Diablo, calling it an "action RPG", I strongly disagree with that assessment. Action RPGs generally lack an element of depth to the story and/or characters that this game is certainly not lacking. A closer comparison would probably be the Neverwinter Nights games, but Redemption is a bit lighter on the RPG stat crunching.