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That's good news!
Maybe now we will see AC2 here on GOG.com.
Post edited September 07, 2012 by grinninglich
A bit strange that they release I Am Alive with Tages DRM instead of UPlay. If they want people to use their new client, they'd better release their game on it instead of using another DRM...
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timppu: 2. DRM that requires online authentication only during installation: for me this doesn't have the issue mentioned above. I think the only reason I consider this an issue is if in the distant future the authentication server is taken permanently offline for any reason, preventing me from (re-)installing my game(s). Legitimely, safely and hassle-free (meaning, no 3rd party pirate cracks). So naturally I prefer DRM-free games over these too.
On that note, the Bioshock authentication server was offline for a while recently. A lot of annoyed people couldn't install their game.
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Solei: Finally they realised that the always-on approach is not the way to do it.

But that's not good enough.

As far as i am concerned they need to get rid of that one-time activation too, before i am going to buy anything from them. I am going to wait until that happens - or until the affected titles show up here ;)
I agree. It's a step in the right direction. But they still need to get rid of the activation for me.
Basically if I won't be able to dig up the game in several years' time and install and play it without needing to ever get permission, then it's too much DRM.
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AnonAnom: I agree. It's a step in the right direction. But they still need to get rid of the activation for me.
Basically if I won't be able to dig up the game in several years' time and install and play it without needing to ever get permission, then it's too much DRM.
He's right you know it's a royal pain what if XYZ company goes belly up and shut down their registration servers THEN WHAT!
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AnonAnom: I agree. It's a step in the right direction. But they still need to get rid of the activation for me.
Basically if I won't be able to dig up the game in several years' time and install and play it without needing to ever get permission, then it's too much DRM.
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fr33kSh0w2012: He's right you know it's a royal pain what if XYZ company goes belly up and shut down their registration servers THEN WHAT!
Cracks, it is a royal pain, I don't disagree, but you can probably crack your copy. I worry more about official archivists that cannot archive this stuff, that is a problem.

Also, source code has copyright, therefor should be held in escrow (along with build scripts and all other stuff required for building) as part of the social contract until such time as it's no longer under copyright and can be released publicly.
Post edited September 07, 2012 by orcishgamer
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orcishgamer: Cracks, it is a royal pain, I don't disagree, but you can probably crack your copy. I worry more about official archivists that cannot archive this stuff, that is a problem.

Also, source code has copyright, therefor should be held in escrow (along with build scripts and all other stuff required for building) as part of the social contract until such time as it's no longer under copyright and can be released publicly.
Cracks can work but you have to watch out with those, Criminals have been known to put backdoors and other nasties in those that cannot be detected with antimalware/antivirus software!

one time I had a crack for an old game "dune" the crack opened up all these dirty child pornography websites Old men with eight year old kids THAT WAY I was shocked.
Post edited September 07, 2012 by fr33kSh0w2012
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orcishgamer: Cracks, it is a royal pain, I don't disagree, but you can probably crack your copy. I worry more about official archivists that cannot archive this stuff, that is a problem.

Also, source code has copyright, therefor should be held in escrow (along with build scripts and all other stuff required for building) as part of the social contract until such time as it's no longer under copyright and can be released publicly.
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fr33kSh0w2012: Cracks can work but you have to watch out with those, Criminals have been known to put backdoors and other nasties in those that cannot be detected with antimalware/antivirus software!

one time I had a crack for an old game "dune" the crack opened up all these dirty child pornography websites Old men with eight year old kids THAT WAY I was shocked.
That was in the past man. Now cracks and cracked games are even cleaner than original ones.
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fr33kSh0w2012: He's right you know it's a royal pain what if XYZ company goes belly up and shut down their registration servers THEN WHAT!
A company doesn't need to go bankrupt to shut down their servers. When the number of people who still use server X to activate the game is too low, they will eventually close the server due to costs.
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grinninglich: That was in the past man. Now cracks and cracked games are even cleaner than original ones.
That's a bit naive. Just two years ago a friend of mine cracked some game. He ran it, everything went fine, when he left it his desktop displayed a message that his PC was hacked and his browsers would only open one weird page. That kind of stuff doesn't happen as often anymore, usually the communities filter these kinds of harmful things, but it still does happen.
Pirates!!! Pirating is fun..
Post edited September 11, 2012 by Tiefood
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grinninglich: That was in the past man. Now cracks and cracked games are even cleaner than original ones.
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F4LL0UT: That's a bit naive. Just two years ago a friend of mine cracked some game. He ran it, everything went fine, when he left it his desktop displayed a message that his PC was hacked and his browsers would only open one weird page. That kind of stuff doesn't happen as often anymore, usually the communities filter these kinds of harmful things, but it still does happen.
No, your friend is naive. I had been downloading cracked games for 10 years and i haven't yet seen a virus or trojan. You shouldnt download from anywhere. This applies not only to gaming but to other software too. From certain sites like Pirate Bay you will be generally same. Don't forget to look at the comments too.
Post edited September 11, 2012 by grinninglich
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grinninglich: No, your friend is naive. I had been downloading cracked games for 10 years and i haven't yet seen a virus or trojan. You shouldnt download from anywhere. This applies not only to gaming but to other software too. From certain sites like Pirate Bay you will be generally same. Don't forget to look at the comments too.
I agree that it's getting easier to avoid trojans but that it is getting easier does not mean that the risks are inexistent. And you know, the fact that there are comments warning you of harmful releases proves that they exist, not that they don't. Also the first people to post comments can rarely be sure whether a release is clean - they can either scan the files (although many scanners recognize even unharmful software as harmful so the results are not always helpful) or just risk it and run the files. If you're clever and/or cautious the chances that you will infest your own PC with some shit are tiny but they are still existent.
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F4LL0UT: ...
Yes of course it still exists but in these days known crackers do it for freedom and purpose is not infect computers but provide users a "clean" and "unshackled" software.

Also there is risk for downloading any software to your computer not just cracked games.

On the other hand some DRM is kind of shit and infests you PC too. Runs on the background always and slows down your computer by trying to check every thing. Plus to that Ubisoft's latest UbiPlay thing was making holes in your computer like a trojan i think you read the news:

http://me.ign.com/en/news/2811/Ubisoft-s-uPlay-Exposed-as-Rookit

I trust more Razor or Skidrow than i trust Ubisoft or Bethesda or EA.