Posted February 18, 2010
![DarrkPhoenix](https://images.gog.com/df1be28147fdef315e936a88501e482749a073c91ac950fd02da6a77474fa202_forum_avatar.jpg)
DarrkPhoenix
A1 Antagonist
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
![soulgrindr](https://images.gog.com/833a6b1145fdedd61568494781f2c9ca80cd0507770ffb1284b5e9a6539e2108_forum_avatar.jpg)
soulgrindr
sloshed
Registered: Sep 2008
From Japan
Posted February 18, 2010
It has an MS paint picture and everything!!
but don't worry, I'm sure they'll release an offline "patch" later - like last time:
http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/ubisoft-releases-pirated-crack-as-fix-to-rainbow-six-vegas-2/1865/
Post edited February 18, 2010 by soulgrindr
![Aliasalpha](https://images.gog.com/563e71a16e2258b17ecb7136a7f486ce1bc63bfb94a823bb868be759e59ca4e2_forum_avatar.jpg)
Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted February 18, 2010
Ahh pirate piracy, a particularly pleasing paradox
![lowyhong](https://images.gog.com/16f9e36f2f49a765d4571a5a2e393ceb2ab536f1dc51a984d1ba33336c6e570d_forum_avatar.jpg)
lowyhong
resident bff
Registered: Dec 2008
From Singapore
Posted February 18, 2010
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2008/10/1223457553631_t2.jpg)
http://www.vtoreality.com/2008/ubisoft-releases-pirated-crack-as-fix-to-rainbow-six-vegas-2/1865/
Yea always bet on ubisoft.
![soulgrindr](https://images.gog.com/833a6b1145fdedd61568494781f2c9ca80cd0507770ffb1284b5e9a6539e2108_forum_avatar.jpg)
soulgrindr
sloshed
Registered: Sep 2008
From Japan
Posted February 18, 2010
It's on the RPS thread, but I thought the picture was funny enough to upload it here.
![StingingVelvet](https://images.gog.com/b37d5c7bb28d5cee442267f7d9baeef3a34dbb99a77f067e8f45eea3a8c9369d_forum_avatar.jpg)
StingingVelvet
Devil's Advocate
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
![Catshade](https://images.gog.com/a1688db3fa8cca0258b9643b913666ae133c93d1472cc0a1b77c43b5d1e664ba_forum_avatar.jpg)
Catshade
resident feline
Registered: Jun 2009
From Indonesia
Posted February 18, 2010
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2008/12/d8d7119fc9fdc380cfcf2113b4ac56b95b175ede_t2.jpg)
Someone outside of Ubisoft has a first-hand experience on the DRM; Now we know how it truly works instead of just relying on Ubi's own FAQ. That's news enough for me.
![StingingVelvet](https://images.gog.com/b37d5c7bb28d5cee442267f7d9baeef3a34dbb99a77f067e8f45eea3a8c9369d_forum_avatar.jpg)
StingingVelvet
Devil's Advocate
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted February 18, 2010
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2008/12/d8d7119fc9fdc380cfcf2113b4ac56b95b175ede_t2.jpg)
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2009/06/d7f4a15e1eca8182fba733ab56245320c0f31c0c_t2.jpg)
True, and I am not bashing the article, it just seems like everyone is surprised it works just like an MMO when the whole point of it from the begining was it's a singleplayer game that works like an MMO to avoid piracy. It is the same thing we knew about before, yet everyone seems to think it is different. They never said it activates everytime, they said you play it on their servers... different animals.
Anyway, I will repeat what I did before, which is basically that I do not like it, I do not agree with it, but if they patch it out when the servers are going down so I can play it in 20 years then I do not consider it a huge issue.
![Stuff](https://images.gog.com/8a121b4699f73feeb282d255bd2bb04e17e8e8fdf597a2e6f1668e724400b066_forum_avatar.jpg)
Stuff
Resident Old Man
Registered: Dec 2008
From United States
Posted February 18, 2010
![soulgrindr](https://images.gog.com/833a6b1145fdedd61568494781f2c9ca80cd0507770ffb1284b5e9a6539e2108_forum_avatar.jpg)
soulgrindr
sloshed
Registered: Sep 2008
From Japan
Posted February 18, 2010
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2008/12/d8d7119fc9fdc380cfcf2113b4ac56b95b175ede_t2.jpg)
because no-one thought they'd actually be dumb enough to go through with it?
Even with MMOs, if your connection drops you don't lose your recent progress, do you?
![DelusionsBeta](https://images.gog.com/33801283c38bb5d30c78b1ad5923aeeb4f879512678784b625a2bfef7a8c20f6_forum_avatar.jpg)
DelusionsBeta
Yikes!
Registered: Feb 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted February 18, 2010
Post edited February 18, 2010 by DelusionsBeta
![TerriblePurpose](https://images.gog.com/9b03503b24a66e76e7101cff2317c9e1103556251a505593b954ebdf4459dcd7_forum_avatar.jpg)
TerriblePurpose
Kwisatz Haderach
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted February 18, 2010
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2009/04/979b2e3b4733d63e0a31fce23abdfe4b91df492c_t2.jpg)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/02/17/you-maniacs
Fuck you Ubisoft.
I'm wondering how this will work, exactly. The reason I wonder is because they've gotten the EA DLC situation with regards to ME2 and DA:O wrong. You CAN play your games with DLC when the servers are down (I know, because I did it). So in light of that error in the article, I wonder how accurate their assessment of the Ubi DRM is.
Note that I'm still going to avoid Ubi's games like the plague until I find out exactly how this DRM scheme works, but so far it's still not clear to me.
![destroyermaker](https://images.gog.com/d7d3dd6877061238e06df50e5bedb37fcbfefea9b497a03f833e6dd6fd66d7bf_forum_avatar.jpg)
destroyermaker
damaged lemon
Registered: Nov 2008
From Canada
Posted February 18, 2010
Confirmed, requires constant connection:
"We reached out to Ubisoft to see how accurate this account was. "As long as you do not quit the game, the game will continue to try to reconnect for an unlimited time. Once the game is able to reconnect, you will immediately be returned to your game," Ars was told. What about your progress?
"Where exactly you are reconnected in the game may differ from title to title. Settlers 7 reconnects at the exact point where the connection was lost, AC2 reconnects you at the last checkpoint (and not the last auto save, as indicated in the CVG article). There are many checkpoints so you're back to the point where you got disconnected in no time."
We were assured that only happens if the disconnection is lengthy. If you're cut off for just a second or two, the game simply pauses and continues on. Ars was also told that nothing will happen if your connection slows down. "Our online services platform will require a maximum of 50kbps of available bandwidth, so even with the slowest connection, gameplay won’t be affected."
"We reached out to Ubisoft to see how accurate this account was. "As long as you do not quit the game, the game will continue to try to reconnect for an unlimited time. Once the game is able to reconnect, you will immediately be returned to your game," Ars was told. What about your progress?
"Where exactly you are reconnected in the game may differ from title to title. Settlers 7 reconnects at the exact point where the connection was lost, AC2 reconnects you at the last checkpoint (and not the last auto save, as indicated in the CVG article). There are many checkpoints so you're back to the point where you got disconnected in no time."
We were assured that only happens if the disconnection is lengthy. If you're cut off for just a second or two, the game simply pauses and continues on. Ars was also told that nothing will happen if your connection slows down. "Our online services platform will require a maximum of 50kbps of available bandwidth, so even with the slowest connection, gameplay won’t be affected."
![StingingVelvet](https://images.gog.com/b37d5c7bb28d5cee442267f7d9baeef3a34dbb99a77f067e8f45eea3a8c9369d_forum_avatar.jpg)
StingingVelvet
Devil's Advocate
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
Posted February 18, 2010
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2008/12/d8d7119fc9fdc380cfcf2113b4ac56b95b175ede_t2.jpg)
![avatar](/upload/avatars/2008/10/1223457553631_t2.jpg)
Even with MMOs, if your connection drops you don't lose your recent progress, do you?
Yes, actually. If you lose connection in the middle of a battle in an MMO you do not pop right back in mid-sword-swing. It saves your stats as you get them and marks the area you are in and any quest progression... but saving up-to-the-second status info? Not really.
Given how often AC1 auto-saved (whenever you did ANYTHING) I would guess it will feel much the same.
![Arkose](https://images.gog.com/5a0f397ee2cb4ea9f640bbeb1dc5653672557b0aad9dc11fe6cfca55ce9eca69_forum_avatar.jpg)
Arkose
sunglasses at night
Registered: Dec 2008
From New Zealand
Posted February 18, 2010
I love the smell of piracy in the morning!
DRM has long been claimed to turn disgruntled customers into pirates, but this system will be by far the best at doing so.
I expect sales for this and other affected games to be dismal unless Ubisoft quickly takes a step back and makes their system less abusive.