Posted June 20, 2014
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Randalator
Deadpan Snarker
Registered: Jun 2012
From Germany
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Emob78
jack and coke plz
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted June 20, 2014
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Same goes with DRM. DRM has always been intrusive, expensive to implement, and almost immediately bypassed by creative types who aren't constricted by corporate policy. And yet, after all these years of failed methods, they still preach that old idea that the 'new way' is always online or restrictive bottlenecked network clients. It's a bad idea that's been spread around to too many people. Hopefully, though, with time and persistence, we will finally overcome this archaic model of punishing people who want to enjoy software and games legally. We've seen the music industry finally change to a digital, customer friendly model and it stopped suing the pants off anyone who downloaded some songs on napster. Maybe within a few more years the gaming industry will finally pull its head out of it rear end and do the same.
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shmerl
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Registered: Sep 2011
From United States
Posted June 20, 2014
Gaming industry is much better when it comes to DRM-free than some others. Video industry is the worst. Try getting films DRM-free...
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Emob78
jack and coke plz
Registered: Dec 2012
From United States
Posted June 20, 2014
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ChrisSD
vita brevis
Registered: Jun 2013
From United Kingdom
Posted June 20, 2014
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shmerl
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Registered: Sep 2011
From United States
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JinseiNGC224
Timelord Gamer
Registered: Oct 2012
From United States
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Xeshra
RPG Geek with super fast PC
Registered: May 2011
From Switzerland
Posted June 20, 2014
I dont support DRM, finish story. Yes i may have a few steam games, thats about 10% of all games, so its close to nothing compared to the other stuff, but steam is the only "DRM" barely acceptable as long as no "third party DRM" involved.
For any other content i dont allow DRM... its as easy as that, zero tolerance. So they dont even need to bother offering me a DRM protected digital download, i spit it out and call a doctor after.
Ah yes, Ubisoft they probably need to stick 5 DRMs and 2 account binding on it, it may work to protect against piracy that way. However, easyer just to be stick to the release of bad software, then i dont even need to think of "getting it" and i hope that all the other users will become happy with the bundle of DRM malware included.
For any other content i dont allow DRM... its as easy as that, zero tolerance. So they dont even need to bother offering me a DRM protected digital download, i spit it out and call a doctor after.
Ah yes, Ubisoft they probably need to stick 5 DRMs and 2 account binding on it, it may work to protect against piracy that way. However, easyer just to be stick to the release of bad software, then i dont even need to think of "getting it" and i hope that all the other users will become happy with the bundle of DRM malware included.
Post edited June 20, 2014 by Xeshra
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rayden54
Fantastic
Registered: May 2014
From United States
Posted June 20, 2014
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DRM's usually just anti-piracy. Most of the online only crap's more like thought police-play the game our way or we ban you. Take the Watch_Dogs mod. In an online only "multiplayer" game they'd have banned those people for "cheating."
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OldFatGuy
Old Fat User
Registered: Nov 2008
From United States
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shmerl
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Registered: Sep 2011
From United States
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Xeshra
RPG Geek with super fast PC
Registered: May 2011
From Switzerland
Posted June 20, 2014
There is basically 2 kind of DRM category:
A: DRM that can behave like a rootkit and damage PC and/or slow down or even cause instability. For example SecuRom. Most Virusscanners consider it as a malware and they are correct.
B: DRM that are here in order to force a permannent online connecting (offline use will need account too) by using a account binding, such a binding is able to put a excessive control on a software user and it can even hinder them to play at some point because a account can be banned or dismissed due to different reasons, in that term the software stops working. However, it doesnt cause damage to a PC but the game simply is never "fully yours", its simply a "limited time access", and not any kind of "lifetime license in order to play", its a very bad "very limited license", the lowest of all license any software can provide. For example Steam (although its really a "good" one because so many useful tools and functions included).
Steam is a very low license, but most people got no clue about that fact : D. Sure, there is many nice online functions, achievements and whatelse, but is that really required in order to have a fun gaming time? Prehaps for mainstream gamers, not for real gamers that value the true essence of a game.
A: DRM that can behave like a rootkit and damage PC and/or slow down or even cause instability. For example SecuRom. Most Virusscanners consider it as a malware and they are correct.
B: DRM that are here in order to force a permannent online connecting (offline use will need account too) by using a account binding, such a binding is able to put a excessive control on a software user and it can even hinder them to play at some point because a account can be banned or dismissed due to different reasons, in that term the software stops working. However, it doesnt cause damage to a PC but the game simply is never "fully yours", its simply a "limited time access", and not any kind of "lifetime license in order to play", its a very bad "very limited license", the lowest of all license any software can provide. For example Steam (although its really a "good" one because so many useful tools and functions included).
Steam is a very low license, but most people got no clue about that fact : D. Sure, there is many nice online functions, achievements and whatelse, but is that really required in order to have a fun gaming time? Prehaps for mainstream gamers, not for real gamers that value the true essence of a game.
Post edited June 20, 2014 by Xeshra
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BreathingMeat
Not THE Corak
Registered: Apr 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted June 20, 2014
Ubisoft are the worst.
If they'd released MMX on GOG, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX without DRM, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX on Steam, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX on uPlay with one-time activation, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX on uPlay with Steam-like activation every time at launch, I'd have bought it.
But they released it on uPlay and locked content behind uPlay rewards. I hate Ubisoft and their stupid attitudes and their lies and their bullshit. I hate what they've done with the Might and Magic series. I hate Ashan. I hate having my system slowed down and my Internet clogged by uPlay. I hate being told I need to "earn" content I have paid for by futzing about with bloody uPlay.
I can't wait for Ubisoft to go broke. I hope whoever wins the Might and Magic franchise from their stinking corpse treats it with more respect.
If they'd released MMX on GOG, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX without DRM, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX on Steam, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX on uPlay with one-time activation, I'd have bought it.
If they'd released MMX on uPlay with Steam-like activation every time at launch, I'd have bought it.
But they released it on uPlay and locked content behind uPlay rewards. I hate Ubisoft and their stupid attitudes and their lies and their bullshit. I hate what they've done with the Might and Magic series. I hate Ashan. I hate having my system slowed down and my Internet clogged by uPlay. I hate being told I need to "earn" content I have paid for by futzing about with bloody uPlay.
I can't wait for Ubisoft to go broke. I hope whoever wins the Might and Magic franchise from their stinking corpse treats it with more respect.
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Rolodzeo
Fission Mailed
Registered: Sep 2010
From Spain
Posted June 20, 2014
So, DRM only harms legitimate users... crazy ¿isn't it?
Also, Ubi nominated for Captain Obvious awards 2014.
Also, Ubi nominated for Captain Obvious awards 2014.
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Rusty_Gunn
I like big bots
Registered: Sep 2013
From United States
Posted June 20, 2014
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DRM is to deal with the other dreaded threat "the customer"
IMHO it's our duty as customers to show how much a threat we can be by sheathing those cards snap shut those wallets & lockdown the checkbooks from the DRM infestation