As I said, all the arguments about it are ridiculous. The EU is just a economico-political club of countries, which can negociate inclusions based on anything. But, tragically enough, and deeply stupidly, this is completely biased by the "europe" symbolism, as if there was some pre-existing collective identity that this union should match. And arguments are being exchanged, based on this. "Oh turkey is too far east", "oh there are muslims and europe is christrian", "oh our culture stops at that line over there and on the other side it's clearly another culture"... This is just childish, illiterate, symbolic bullshit, but it weights more than anything else because Europe.

In other words, the discussion is polluted by moronic arguments trying to determine whether Turkey is "already" in Europe or "already" european. This has absolutely no meaning at all. Turkey neither is nor isn't European. You people decide where the arbitrary frontier of your idiotic notion is drawn. It is not a pre-existing thing to discover. It means nothing, there ! What, you discovered that "europe has no muslim country ?", well if europe includes Turkey then it has and it becomes "Europe has muslim country", and that's it. "But it is not in Europe". Where is it then, Asia ? Where does Asia start, and why ? You have a geophysical tectonic line that follows country borders ? It's been measured between Greece and Turkey ? What about the Greek islands on the Turkey coast, they are asian or european ? "But we don't want Turkey for economical reasons". Okay, suit yourselves, it's your club, but DO NOT CALL THIS "EUROPE", or at least do not SEE it as an "europe" idea ! This whole symbolic pseudo-cultural historical mystical bullshit is entirely irrelevant.

Is Switzerland a "european country" or is it not a "european country" ? AAAAAAH MINDBLOW.