Fenixp: If they didn't exist, our society would not work.
No, our society would be a lot better and a lot less dominated by no-good corporations if everybody knew how to assemble a PC. We sure as heck wouldn't have mountain loads of companies like Apple who do nothing but bundled their forced closed software with second-rate hardware and sell it many, many times the price of the parts in it. So yes, society is dominated by idiots, and the idiots laziness to use google or try and do something for themselves fuels the pockets of companies that prey on them.
You didn't actually give me any sound reasoning as to why using a PC is good, you came up with a bunch of personally biased arguments that hold no ground whatsoever.
It's technically superior, and doesn't feature a closed platform. Nuff said
That's not true. As JMich stated and I have experienced many times in my life, working efficiently with computers requires a lot of learning, experience, and dedication.
We aren't talking about "working with computers" in that way, we are talking about having the patience and the ability to make a few fucking google searches, or hell just follow the instructions on the parts you buy, and it will take you less than an hour to assemble a PC.
There's so much to do with your life, and some people want to play games, but don't want to learn about computers.
They are the same thing, when you are running a game, the hardware powering that software is the graphics card, the processor, the memory. Computing is the epitome of modern society and technology, willfully being ignorant and letting yourself be ripped off by businesses that prey on ignorance is the height of stupidity.
A console is an ideal solution for them as they have all the convenience they can possibly want,
There is a difference between "convenience" of willful ignorance and/or laziness. As with my previous point, everything in life is daunting at first until you understand it, but once you do understand it's like riding a bicycle.
and an arrangement of games which are catered for them, which usually don't take up much time and are easy to pick up and play.
The irony of this is quite funny, considering how still stuck in the physical retail model consoles are, while PC is the real home of the digital games market. With distributors like Steam and this site, it is just as easy if not more to buy and play games on PC. Again you're defending ignorance under some weird notion of "lolol nerds have no life, i dun care about how computers work". In the modern world knowing the basics of computer hardware should be essential.
You have not actually counter-argued this, you just said it's not true with nothing whatsoever to even attemtp to back it up.
I haven't countered what exactly? So you're saying that people who buy console games are ignorant, unwilling to learn even the basics of computer hardware, and therefore buying overpriced console hardware "makes sense"? It "makes sense" in the same way
Saying that a shortcut is not a shortcut is a definition of bad logic. You spend less time with consoles and console games in general. They're designed with this in mind. I have actually done my research on the subject many times, and I have been playing console games for quite some time.
I'm saying it's not a shortcut because it isn't. It's different, inferior hardware. A shortcut is quicker access to the same thing, not an inferior thing. You're argument boils down to "computas r teh hard, so i play console". Consoles and PC are completely different things, so you can't call consoles a shortcut.
If I made a desktop shortcut to a folder containing a 1080p mkv 10-bit video file, and then next day I opened that shortcut and instead of that video, there was a 420p blurry avi video file there, would you consider that a good thing? A shortcut implies a quick route to the same thing, not an inferior thing.
It was so infinitely easier than PC games. You are pulling statistics out your ass, saying crap like 'Oh but it's so cheaper!', but that's just flatout not true. Xbox one is going to cost 500 bucks, PS4 is going to cost 400. To get a PC with comparable ability in gaming, you'd have to pay at least that much, if not more - my PC cost 1000 bucks at the time of building it.
Extrapolate the "real" price of console gaming by adding the 60$ per game (because consoles rarely if ever do sales), plus if you want to play multiplayer you'll need to pay a yearly subscription on PS4/Xbox live services. Also taking the consoles at their raw price is misleading, when you buy a PC it can be incrementally upgraded over the years, stretching out it's lifespan.
While console games are more expensive, console will last you quite a bit of time, you don't have to upgrade, you don't have to fiddle with it.
Utter rubbish, Xbox 360 had a ridiculously high failure rate, a PC made with quality parts will always last longer than a console made by console manufacturers who want to make the maximum profit while using the least expensive hardware inside. And why do you list upgrading as a bad thing? That's a good point because it allows you to keep your PC capable to play the latest games without having to replace it, another advantage over consoles.
Also keep in mind that people who get a console generally don't spend nearly as much time playing games as people who get a PC for gaming, so while prices of individual games are higher, their gaming budget is far lower. But you'd actually need to know more people than yourself to be aware of that.
Over the long-term a PC is a better investment, because you don't have to replace it wholesale as you do with consoles, you can just upgrade the processor or GPU. Not to mention the myriad other uses of a PC outside gaming, word processing, web browsing, most people own a PC ANYWAY, so if you own a PC anyway why not spend a bit more and make it your gaming platform too?
Now, go ahead. Don't pick and match as you have done so far, answer all my points with actual arguments as opposed to 'You're lying' and 'You're wrong'.
Your "points" are again, as I said, Appeals to Authority, or well not really "authority" so much as "experiences of other people". You have made no arguments which aren't completely non-hard psychological or sentimental crap. If your argument is just that people buy consoles because of ignorance of computing knowledge, or because computers are teh hard.... I concede to your point, console gamers are flaming retards.
But at the end of the day, only the console gamers themselves are getting ripped-off, not me. I just dislike shady corporations that base their business models on customer apathy and ignorance, and those who refuse to learn and instead pay people to do things for them that they could do for themselves with a quick google and some patience.
My only argument is that consoles are technically inferior and overly expensive, and that everybody should know how computers work on the inside anyways