Posted September 15, 2013
I wish I had a time machine to be able to bump this yesterday. Turns out le_chevalier is only human. :P
BUMP!
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MadalinStroe
Veni, vidi, vici
Registered: Apr 2012
From Romania
chezybezy
CSA / nuts :)
Registered: Dec 2012
From United Kingdom
Posted September 15, 2013
oh this is so much fun, iv spent the last day or so coming up with ideas!
obviously not in as im too tied to type any of them up >< if i feel better after meds i will, then if i may ill enter for Spinorial once iv typed up something?
but ill leave this to ponder on, ive been told many many times i was born out of my time.
obviously not in as im too tied to type any of them up >< if i feel better after meds i will, then if i may ill enter for Spinorial once iv typed up something?
but ill leave this to ponder on, ive been told many many times i was born out of my time.
Post edited September 15, 2013 by chezybezy
Reever
Demon
Registered: Sep 2012
From Germany
Posted September 15, 2013
Thanks for your generosity, everybody!!
I'm in for Metro 2033!
As for your question, it's really difficult. I'd really want to see how the Dinos lived, or our ancestors, but surviving for 6 months in those times might be a bit difficult. So I'd probably go some...hmmm....100 years in the future and hope humanity hasn't exterminated themselves till then :D
I'm in for Metro 2033!
As for your question, it's really difficult. I'd really want to see how the Dinos lived, or our ancestors, but surviving for 6 months in those times might be a bit difficult. So I'd probably go some...hmmm....100 years in the future and hope humanity hasn't exterminated themselves till then :D
le_chevalier
Quixotic Knight
Registered: Aug 2011
From Indonesia
Posted September 15, 2013
I've got so many answers to your question, Thespian. To just pick one it'd be....
Hmmm...this is a hard one. :P
I'd go to late 12th century AD, Jerusalem. I'd prevent the Battle of Hattin ever take place and thus the Crusaders' crushing defeat would never happen and no loss of Crusader States especially Jerusalem. I'd prevent the war broken out between Crusader States and Saladin's Sultanate, at least not in the circumstances of that time. This means Reynaud de Chatillon's raid should never happen.
Not far from that time, early 1200s, I'd prevent the Fourth Crusade happened or directed at Byzantine Empire! This would hurt the relations between the two great Christian Churches permanently and contributed to the fall of Constantinople to the Turks.
Spinorial: Still, I've always wondered how things would turn out if in 1944 Rommel had taken command and opened the western front. Lots of unforeseen, vastly different, consequences in that one. I'll want to flesh this out a bit further, but that's the main point of it.
-- Total Annihilation: Commander Pack for me, let's get this one out of the way :P
-- Patrician IV & Rise of a Dynasty for Recsam511
-- Metro 2033 for MunkiSiren
-- Slam Bolt Scrappers for Black Dawn
-- Krunch for lugum
-- Cognition Ep. 2 for benderz
-- Cognition Ep. 1 for DeMignon
-- Anodyne for JogsterXL What do you mean Rommel opened the western front? You mean like Rommel takes command of Ardennes Offensive?
I'd save him and his family from Hitler if possible. Maybe there's no better way than to surrender to Western Allies or negotiate peace. This is for Germany too. Their defeat was almost certain. No need for further losses of life, as the result seemed to have been concluded. I'd also prevent the "unconditional surrender" agreement amongst Allies ever exist, which was to please the Soviets. Thus total war for the German people is not necessary. No need for further huge civilian loss of life.
Maybe I'd agree with Patton to attack the Soviets before they got stronger, subjugating Eastern European countries. West Allies could afford it. Get rid Stalin off Russia and the world!!!
I'd like to enter what Spinorial entered for, Thespian. Total Annihilation for Spinorial and the rest is exactly the same. :P
Thanks to generous contributors ISC, Robette, Lemuria, Lugum and especially the host, Thespian*.
Hmmm...this is a hard one. :P
I'd go to late 12th century AD, Jerusalem. I'd prevent the Battle of Hattin ever take place and thus the Crusaders' crushing defeat would never happen and no loss of Crusader States especially Jerusalem. I'd prevent the war broken out between Crusader States and Saladin's Sultanate, at least not in the circumstances of that time. This means Reynaud de Chatillon's raid should never happen.
Not far from that time, early 1200s, I'd prevent the Fourth Crusade happened or directed at Byzantine Empire! This would hurt the relations between the two great Christian Churches permanently and contributed to the fall of Constantinople to the Turks.
-- Total Annihilation: Commander Pack for me, let's get this one out of the way :P
-- Patrician IV & Rise of a Dynasty for Recsam511
-- Metro 2033 for MunkiSiren
-- Slam Bolt Scrappers for Black Dawn
-- Krunch for lugum
-- Cognition Ep. 2 for benderz
-- Cognition Ep. 1 for DeMignon
-- Anodyne for JogsterXL
I'd save him and his family from Hitler if possible. Maybe there's no better way than to surrender to Western Allies or negotiate peace. This is for Germany too. Their defeat was almost certain. No need for further losses of life, as the result seemed to have been concluded. I'd also prevent the "unconditional surrender" agreement amongst Allies ever exist, which was to please the Soviets. Thus total war for the German people is not necessary. No need for further huge civilian loss of life.
Maybe I'd agree with Patton to attack the Soviets before they got stronger, subjugating Eastern European countries. West Allies could afford it. Get rid Stalin off Russia and the world!!!
I'd like to enter what Spinorial entered for, Thespian. Total Annihilation for Spinorial and the rest is exactly the same. :P
Thanks to generous contributors ISC, Robette, Lemuria, Lugum and especially the host, Thespian*.
Spinorial
Ninja who say Ni
Registered: Dec 2011
From Canada
Posted September 15, 2013
Paints quite a different post-war picture. I'll still need to add a few more details to the main description, though thanks for the support :-)
tAnt0
Smoking Skull
Registered: Jun 2013
From Serbia
Posted September 16, 2013
Bump
Thespian
Fascinating!
Registered: Mar 2012
From Spain
Posted September 16, 2013
Classy one. ;)
Reever: As for your question, it's really difficult. I'd really want to see how the Dinos lived, or our ancestors, but surviving for 6 months in those times might be a bit difficult. So I'd probably go some...hmmm....100 years in the future and hope humanity hasn't exterminated themselves till then :D I've got bad news for you, Reever... 100 years in the future, humanity is extinct and dinosaurs rule Earth again! :p
(blame on the owners of Jurassic Park and their careless genetic experimentation) :D
chezybezy: oh this is so much fun, iv spent the last day or so coming up with ideas!
obviously not in as im too tied to type any of them up >< if i feel better after meds i will, then if i may ill enter for Spinorial once iv typed up something?
but ill leave this to ponder on, ive been told many many times i was born out of my time. Hope you're feeling better already, mate? ;)
le_chevalier: I'd go to late 12th century AD, Jerusalem. I'd prevent the Battle of Hattin ever take place and thus the Crusaders' crushing defeat would never happen and no loss of Crusader States especially Jerusalem. I'd prevent the war broken out between Crusader States and Saladin's Sultanate, at least not in the circumstances of that time. This means Reynaud de Chatillon's raid should never happen.
Not far from that time, early 1200s, I'd prevent the Fourth Crusade happened or directed at Byzantine Empire! This would hurt the relations between the two great Christian Churches permanently and contributed to the fall of Constantinople to the Turks. All of that in six months? You sure are a workaholic, Chev. :p
le_chevalier: [...] I'd also prevent the "unconditional surrender" agreement amongst Allies ever exist, which was to please the Soviets. Thus total war for the German people is not necessary. No need for further huge civilian loss of life. [...] From Wikipedia:
It is felt that Roosevelt made the announcement in a maneuver to effectuate two goals: One was to keep Soviet forces engaged with Germany on the Russian front, thus depleting German munitions and troops; and secondly [it was] to prevent Stalin from negotiating a separate peace with the Nazi regime.
Also:
Both Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin disapproved of the demand for unconditional surrender, as did most senior U.S. officials. It has been estimated that it helped prolong the war in Europe through its usefulness to German domestic propaganda that used it to encourage further resistance against the Allied armies, and its suppressive effect on the German resistance movement since even after a coup against Adolf Hitler.
le_chevalier: [...] I'd save him [Rommel] and his family from Hitler if possible. Maybe there's no better way than to surrender to Western Allies or negotiate peace. This is for Germany too. Their defeat was almost certain. No need for further losses of life, as the result seemed to have been concluded. [...] le_chevalier: What do you mean Rommel opened the western front? You mean like Rommel takes command of Ardennes Offensive? Spinorial: I mean pack up and leave, in the summer of 1944. Once the Allies had successfully landed in force, there was going to be no conditional peace, and most German generals realised as much. Rommel had command of the defence of Normandy and retained it for a while after. He was in a position to order a general retreat, offer no resistance to the Allied advance, surrender troops where necessary, ship as many to the Eastern front as possible. You both would need to have Hitler killed in advance, no chance of a German surrender with Hitler still alive:
On March 19, 1945, he ordered a massive scorched-earth campaign throughout Germany so that absolutely nothing of value would be left for the victors. This included the complete destruction of all German industry, communications, agriculture, mines, food stuffs, railways, ships, roads, bridges, stores, shops and utility plants.
“If the war is lost," Hitler told his Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer, "the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed."
(Source: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/defeat/enter-bunker.htm)
(blame on the owners of Jurassic Park and their careless genetic experimentation) :D
obviously not in as im too tied to type any of them up >< if i feel better after meds i will, then if i may ill enter for Spinorial once iv typed up something?
but ill leave this to ponder on, ive been told many many times i was born out of my time.
Not far from that time, early 1200s, I'd prevent the Fourth Crusade happened or directed at Byzantine Empire! This would hurt the relations between the two great Christian Churches permanently and contributed to the fall of Constantinople to the Turks.
It is felt that Roosevelt made the announcement in a maneuver to effectuate two goals: One was to keep Soviet forces engaged with Germany on the Russian front, thus depleting German munitions and troops; and secondly [it was] to prevent Stalin from negotiating a separate peace with the Nazi regime.
Also:
Both Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin disapproved of the demand for unconditional surrender, as did most senior U.S. officials. It has been estimated that it helped prolong the war in Europe through its usefulness to German domestic propaganda that used it to encourage further resistance against the Allied armies, and its suppressive effect on the German resistance movement since even after a coup against Adolf Hitler.
On March 19, 1945, he ordered a massive scorched-earth campaign throughout Germany so that absolutely nothing of value would be left for the victors. This included the complete destruction of all German industry, communications, agriculture, mines, food stuffs, railways, ships, roads, bridges, stores, shops and utility plants.
“If the war is lost," Hitler told his Minister of Armaments, Albert Speer, "the nation will also perish. This fate is inevitable. There is no necessity to take into consideration the basis which the people will need to continue even a most primitive existence. On the contrary, it will be better to destroy these things ourselves, because this nation will have proved to be the weaker one and the future will belong solely to the stronger eastern nation. Besides, those who will remain after the battle are only the inferior ones, for the good ones have all been killed."
(Source: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/defeat/enter-bunker.htm)
Post edited September 16, 2013 by Thespian*
Moonbeam..
Grey Havens
Registered: Jan 2010
From South Africa
Posted September 17, 2013
Curiosity bump
le_chevalier
Quixotic Knight
Registered: Aug 2011
From Indonesia
Posted September 17, 2013
#Q&_^Q&Q#LINK:67#Q&_^Q&Q#
Yeah maybe there's much more I need to read about the details... July 20 plot was so close to kill Hitler. Just move the bomb one or more feet, would do the job. Killing him is just one way to remove him from power. It's more important to topple Nazi regime by any means.
Personally I think unconditional surrender is unnecessary. Nazi regime wouldn't last anyway IMO even without Allies destroying Germany as in history.
akhliber
closet ballerina
Registered: Jul 2012
From United States
Posted September 17, 2013
Not in, but thanks for an awesome giveaway, Thespian* (and thanks to all the generous gifters as well.)
I'd like to think I'd go to some place and time of great significance, but chances are I'd fold and just travel to 1967 and follow Pink Floyd around Europe to catch some shows while Syd Barrett was still in the group. Either that or I'd blow it on a chance to party with Harry Nilsson for a couple days. ;)
I'd like to think I'd go to some place and time of great significance, but chances are I'd fold and just travel to 1967 and follow Pink Floyd around Europe to catch some shows while Syd Barrett was still in the group. Either that or I'd blow it on a chance to party with Harry Nilsson for a couple days. ;)
Thespian
Fascinating!
Registered: Mar 2012
From Spain
Posted September 18, 2013
Timely BUMP!
MadalinStroe
Veni, vidi, vici
Registered: Apr 2012
From Romania
Posted September 18, 2013
Due to poor planning it appears that I'll miss the results of several giveaways including this one(I'll be away for 10 days with no Internet access). I'm leaving this message to signal my understanding should this disqualify my entry.
Thespian
Fascinating!
Registered: Mar 2012
From Spain
Posted September 18, 2013
Moonbeam..
Grey Havens
Registered: Jan 2010
From South Africa
Posted September 19, 2013
Bump:)
BlueKronos
What to play?
Registered: Sep 2011
From United States
Posted September 19, 2013
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To enter the giveaway, just tell me what time and location you'd choose and what you'd do there. ;)
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-- Total Annihilation: Commander Pack - count me in for this
Desura:
-- Oozi Earth Adventure - count me in for this one too
-- Paranautical Activity - please count my entry for the 5th one from the end at the time of the giveaway's end
-- Cognition Ep. 1 - please count my entry for Spinorial
-- Cognition Ep. 2 - please count my entry for Spinorial
-- Anodyne - please count my entry for Spinoiral
-- McDroid please count my entry for the 9th one from the end at the time of the giveaway's end
-- Krunch - please count my entry for Spinorial
Steam:
-- Metro 2033 - please count my entry for Spinorial
-- Patrician IV + Rise of a Dynasty DLC - please count my entry for Spinorial
-- Slam Bolt Scrappers - please count my entry for Spinorial
(thank you very much, mateys, this Community is amazing!) :)
Edit: included the missing "i"s
Post edited September 20, 2013 by BlueKronos