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Skysect: I hope they will fill a case for bankruptcy . I hope gamers punish them . I hate them . What a horrible developer . I completely refuse to buy their shit .
We already know you're just full of bile, no need to remind us.
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Skysect: I hope they will fill a case for bankruptcy . I hope gamers punish them . I hate them . What a horrible developer . I completely refuse to buy their shit .
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Pheace: We already know you're just full of bile, no need to remind us.
While he might be a bit harsh, what do you think of their communication all this time dude?.
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Pheace: We already know you're just full of bile, no need to remind us.
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Niggles: While he might be a bit harsh, what do you think of their communication all this time dude?.
Lacking, which is a fair argument to make.
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Niggles: While he might be a bit harsh, what do you think of their communication all this time dude?.
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Pheace: Lacking, which is a fair argument to make.
They kickstarted this project and can't comminucate with backers . Is it really good ? They really made a half assed product . Maybe they used cracked version for strip DRM . Who knows ? LOL
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Niggles: While he might be a bit harsh, what do you think of their communication all this time dude?.
Their communication straight up sucked. However, they are devs. Most devs aren't very skilled in marketing nor are they natural skilled spokesmen.
And if Skysect just "might be a bit harsh", Stoic didn't surpass the minor annoyance level - one should apply the same standards you'd expect from Stoic to gamers and commentators, too.

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Skysect: Who knows ? LOL
Certainly not you.....
Post edited February 08, 2014 by Siannah
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Niggles: While he might be a bit harsh, what do you think of their communication all this time dude?.
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Siannah: Their communication straight up sucked. However, they are devs. Most devs aren't very skilled in marketing nor are they natural skilled spokesmen.
And if Skysect just "might be a bit harsh", Stoic didn't surpass the minor annoyance level - one should apply the same standards you'd expect from Stoic to gamers and commentators, too.

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Skysect: Who knows ? LOL
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Siannah: Certainly not you.....
If one day I buy their product , I will make byte by byte comparison and we will see :) I don't have too much hope . Because they are really poor developers . In these days I saw better products on Kickstarter and they still don't collected money . 7x goal is waste of money .
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Siannah: Their communication straight up sucked. However, they are devs. Most devs aren't very skilled in marketing nor are they natural skilled spokesmen.
And if Skysect just "might be a bit harsh", Stoic didn't surpass the minor annoyance level - one should apply the same standards you'd expect from Stoic to gamers and commentators, too.

Certainly not you.....
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Skysect: If one day I buy their product , I will make byte by byte comparison and we will see :) I don't have too much hope . Because they are really poor developers . In these days I saw better products on Kickstarter and they still don't collected money . 7x goal is waste of money .
I wouldn't say they are bad dev's. Just very poor communicator's in dealing with the end user (i actually wonder if they give a **** either) . There's plenty of dev's like that using kickstarter unfortunately (Star Command is one ongoing cluster****). At least they have an end product. And quite a decent one too.
Post edited February 08, 2014 by Niggles
I pledged 130 $ for Pillars of Eternity :) It's best RPG game .
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Skysect: I completely refuse to buy their shit .
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Skysect: If one day I buy their product , I will make byte by byte comparison and we will see :)
Can you make your mind up what it is now? Buy, don't buy, someday.... o_O

Also for a byte by byte comparison you need the cracked version ... ... you're not a backer but complaining about no DRM-free release. The DRM-free release is here, you stopped complaining and instead went into full-rage mode, wishing them all the worst.
.... yeah, if Stoic is a bad dev, then you're a horrible gamer and I wouldn't wanted you as a customer either.
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Skysect: If one day I buy their product , I will make byte by byte comparison and we will see :)
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Siannah: Can you make your mind up what it is now? Buy, don't buy, someday.... o_O

Also for a byte by byte comparison you need the cracked version ... ... you're not a backer but complaining about no DRM-free release. The DRM-free release is here, you stopped complaining and instead went into full-rage mode, wishing them all the worst.
.... yeah, if Stoic is a bad dev, then you're a horrible gamer and I wouldn't wanted you as a customer either.
How do you know ? I never write harsh things about any developer except Stoic . GOG release is here but I still heard too much negative things .
They are certainly slow with their communication. Backer link to DRM-free download has been up for at least a week now from same place you can get the Steam key in their forums but only mention about it is in a post in their forum promissing kickstarter update/announcement "soon". That was four days ago. It can't be that hard to make a KS news post can it? Or is it so hard to generate GOG game keys? Not to mention how long it took to make the DRM-free version in the first place.

I grew tired on waiting and downloaded it but hopefully GOG keys will be provided with the upcoming update. The download contains the soundtrack so need to check if other Special Edition goodies are included, GOG version being the standard no extras edition.
John, Technical Director
The DRM free version is available on the Kickstarter download page.

We will be making an Announcement/Kickstarter Update as soon as we can.
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Petrell: They are certainly slow with their communication. Backer link to DRM-free download has been up for at least a week now from same place you can get the Steam key in their forums but only mention about it is in a post in their forum promissing kickstarter update/announcement "soon". That was four days ago. It can't be that hard to make a KS news post can it? Or is it so hard to generate GOG game keys? Not to mention how long it took to make the DRM-free version in the first place.

I grew tired on waiting and downloaded it but hopefully GOG keys will be provided with the upcoming update. The download contains the soundtrack so need to check if other Special Edition goodies are included, GOG version being the standard no extras edition.

John, Technical Director
The DRM free version is available on the Kickstarter download page.

We will be making an Announcement/Kickstarter Update as soon as we can.
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Petrell:
Wonder what they are doing?. Game already released, Hasn't the patch been released already?. Even for a 3 man team... not making time to even bother to do something timely....something doesn't feel right. Oh well.
Released Steam version = Stoic got praised by Steam users
Released DRM-free version = Stoic gets shat on for doing so by DRM-free fans

I can't see very bright future for any more DRM free releases from them :-P
Post edited February 08, 2014 by Fenixp
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Niggles: Wonder what they are doing?. Game already released, Hasn't the patch been released already?. Even for a 3 man team... not making time to even bother to do something timely....something doesn't feel right. Oh well.
Wait, they're still 3 man team? I knew the three that left Bioware formed the core of the team but not that team remained the same over the development. That explains the slow communication a bit but then how can some 1 and 2 person projects have better excection and communication?

As for DRM-free release, I think they made a plunder. Instead of making DRM-free version and adding steam features on top of that they made Steam version and had to strip out the Steam features in order to make the DRM-free version thus the DRM-free version taking longer to make. This might bite them further if and when when they make patches. We'll see.
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Fenixp: Released Steam version = Stoic got praised by Steam users
Released DRM-free version = Stoic gets shat on for doing so by DRM-free fans

I can't see very bright future for any more DRM free releases from them :-P
Let's have them do it the otherway around with next episode and see what kind of shit storm it'll cause all over the place. ;-p Steam users are hardly any more lenient or patient compared to DRM-free growd, I can actually quite safely say they're far worse Just see all the where are mah steam keys/steam key gimme gimme all over the net. You can also read the early access forums if you're not convinces. It's worse than RPGCodex forums. :-p
Post edited February 08, 2014 by Petrell
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Petrell: Let's have them do it the otherway around with next episode and see what kind of shit storm it'll cause all over the place. ;-p Steam users are hardly any more lenient or patient compared to DRM-free growd, I can actually quite safely say they're far worse Just see all the where are mah steam keys/steam key gimme gimme all over the net. You can also read the early access forums if you're not convinces. It's worse than RPGCodex forums. :-p
Yup, I feel that's why they did the release how they did it. But if they have to pick between the two, guess which crowd are they going to support...