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Silverhawk170485: But that is no economic working.
I'd build first the DRM-free version and then add the copyprotection for Steam. So you don't have to add the copyprotection and then remove it again for a DRM-free version. That's twice the work.

But meanwhile the game is already cracked and ready to get pirated. Pirates are really fast in making DRM-free versions.
LOL, you are right, the game is already available on the torrents. Pirates are really good at this.
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Silverhawk170485: But meanwhile the game is already cracked and ready to get pirated. Pirates are really fast in making DRM-free versions.
LOL, it's another nice example of perfectly working Steam as DRM :D
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Silverhawk170485: But meanwhile the game is already cracked and ready to get pirated. Pirates are really fast in making DRM-free versions.
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cyboff: LOL, it's another nice example of perfectly working Steam as DRM :D
LMFAO It's really tragicomic .
edit: wrong thread
Post edited January 16, 2014 by etna87
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Silverhawk170485: But that is no economic working. ....
Did you missed the part, where he was just "guessing"?

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GabiMoro: LOL, you are right, the game is already available on the torrents. Pirates are really good at this.
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cyboff: LOL, it's another nice example of perfectly working Steam as DRM :D
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Skysect: LMFAO It's really tragicomic .
Actually, the tragicomic part is you guys finding it funny.
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Skysect: LMFAO It's really tragicomic .
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Siannah: Actually, the tragicomic part is you guys finding it funny.
The developers are still strugling to make a working DRM-free copy and yesterday people from outside the developer company (aka pirates) already made a DRM-free copy.

Pretty funny if you ask me.
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Silverhawk170485: But that is no economic working. ....
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Siannah: Did you missed the part, where he was just "guessing"?

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Skysect: LMFAO It's really tragicomic .
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Siannah: Actually, the tragicomic part is you guys finding it funny.
Sorry but I can't keep calm in this situation . They writes somethings in who are us section . Their programmer started to programming at age 6 . But don't know what to do ? That's really pretty stupid .
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etna87: http://www.pcgames.de/Broken-Age-PC-257065/Tests/Broken-Age-im-Test-1105098/
Test in German, 76%.
Short summary: Nice atmosphere, many crazy ideas, great music, but puzzles are very simple, the story is quite short, and a lot of characters are not that interesting or unimportant.
Even shorter summary: Nice, but not great.

I think basically, this test reiterates the opinions voiced in this thread; the main difference in perception seems to arise from the fact that people value the various aspects differently.
Since I did not back the game (and won't buy it for now), I can only comment on the graphics. While I do like some cartoony styles (for example, I think Bastion looks great and I also liked the style of the MI2 special edition), I'm not a great fan of the "childrens' book" style of DF.
I think this post belong to this thread.
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Siannah: Actually, the tragicomic part is you guys finding it funny.
Yeah it's funny because pirates made it DRM-free in a short time while backers have to wait for ... a date not yet announced. This is a bit frustrating when you backed the game with a huge amount of money several times the real price of the game. So this is some kind of gallows humor.

There is not only this example existing.

For Example: Maxis said that it is not possible to make an offline mode for Sim City. Some Modders made it in a few days. Then Maxis said that you could be banned when you use this mod because they see it as a crack not a mod. Now they made an offline mode themselves in a much longer time. LOL!
Post edited January 15, 2014 by Silverhawk170485
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Silverhawk170485: But meanwhile the game is already cracked and ready to get pirated. Pirates are really fast in making DRM-free versions.
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GabiMoro: LOL, you are right, the game is already available on the torrents. Pirates are really good at this.
One of my continual frustrations with corporations these days - they'd rather keep trundling on with unworkable DRM than just get the product out the door. Same thing keeps me from buying ebooks from most vendors these days.

I don't pirate games, so I'm still waiting for my DRM-free version of this title here. Nice to know that, as an honest consumer, I come fucking last in their calculus.
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Siannah: Actually, the tragicomic part is you guys finding it funny.
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GabiMoro: The developers are still strugling to make a working DRM-free copy and yesterday people from outside the developer company (aka pirates) already made a DRM-free copy.

Pretty funny if you ask me.
It sure is if you can't tell the difference between a DRM-ed version with a crack on top of it and a DRM-free version.

These people are actually trying to program a proper DRM-free version and funnily enough all they seem to get from the drm-free crowd is hate. Apparently it's a horrid thing for a 3 man development team with 1 programmer to be late with a different version of the game when it comes to a DRM-free version.

I applaud the people who actually are saying they have the patience to simply wait for it rather than complain.
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IAmSinistar: One of my continual frustrations with corporations these days - they'd rather keep trundling on with unworkable DRM than just get the product out the door. Same thing keeps me from buying ebooks from most vendors these days.

I don't pirate games, so I'm still waiting for my DRM-free version of this title here. Nice to know that, as an honest consumer, I come fucking last in their calculus.
Inb4 "DRM-Free customers are hipsters."
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GabiMoro: The developers are still strugling to make a working DRM-free copy and yesterday people from outside the developer company (aka pirates) already made a DRM-free copy.

Pretty funny if you ask me.
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Pheace: It sure is if you can't tell the difference between a DRM-ed version with a crack on top of it and a DRM-free version.

These people are actually trying to program a proper DRM-free version and funnily enough all they seem to get from the drm-free crowd is hate. Apparently it's a horrid thing for a 3 man development team with 1 programmer to be late with a different version of the game when it comes to a DRM-free version.

I applaud the people who actually are saying they have the patience to simply wait for it rather than complain.
Who the hell is complaining? I'm not buying the game at full price nor torrenting the game. Yes, it would be nice if the game was available at the same time in diffrent stores but I'm not affected in any way.
Relax!
Post edited January 15, 2014 by GabiMoro
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Grargar: Inb4 "DRM-Free customers are hipsters."
I suspect I'm missing a "meme" here. Though I freely admit that my tastes are outre enough that they are typically last on most business's "meet needs" lists.

This particular case just galls me because I am a programmer, and there is something piscine-scented about a team of indie developers building their product around a DRM framework first, and then needing to surgically excise it for the "regular" version. That does not inspire confidence in either their competence or their product.

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GabiMoro: Who the hell is complaining?
Anyone who isn't grateful for the chance to press lips upon the anus of Steam, perhaps. Since they got their game already, all is right with the world, and everyone else can just sit quiet in the corner like good muppets and wait their turn. Maybe.
Post edited January 15, 2014 by IAmSinistar
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GabiMoro: Who the hell is complaining?
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IAmSinistar: Anyone who isn't grateful for the chance to press lips upon the anus of Steam, perhaps. Since they got their game already, all is right with the world, and everyone else can just sit quiet in the corner like good muppets and wait their turn. Maybe.
.....at least the torrented version is not the DRM-free copy from GOG :)