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Posted November 14, 2012
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carnival73: Taking forums seriously...
... is a right bad idea. Don't ever do it. Seriously.
Posted November 14, 2012
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mondo84: My internet rep is all I have.

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BlueMooner: Then here's +1 to you.
And a +1 to you as well!
Posted November 14, 2012
Every morning I check my rep and if it went up my dick follows suit.
Posted November 14, 2012
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ellynandroid: The dismissive attitude of a lot of people online (the "it's the internet, don't take it seriously" argument) is not only ridiculous and demeaning, it encourages bullying — even from otherwise reasonably decent people. Hell, I fell prey to that mindset (briefly, until I realised what the hell I was doing) when I was younger and stupider. The distinction we make between the "real world" and the internet doesn't help, either — where are we but the real world? The internet is a method of communication, not freaking Skyrim.
And it'll only get worse if the Singularity happens and the Internet is the real world.
Posted November 14, 2012
yay even a psychopath can have reps and people actually listen to him and take his idealism
Posted November 14, 2012
I don't pay attention to rep metrics. I judge a person's "reputation" by the quality of what they write, not how many green dots they gather.
Posted November 14, 2012
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ellynandroid: The dismissive attitude of a lot of people online (the "it's the internet, don't take it seriously" argument) is not only ridiculous and demeaning, it encourages bullying — even from otherwise reasonably decent people. Hell, I fell prey to that mindset (briefly, until I realised what the hell I was doing) when I was younger and stupider. The distinction we make between the "real world" and the internet doesn't help, either — where are we but the real world? The internet is a method of communication, not freaking Skyrim.
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Aaron86: And it'll only get worse if the Singularity happens and the Internet is the real world.
And that's about as frightening a future as they come.
Posted November 14, 2012
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Vestin: Forums are a part of life, the world and human interactions. I don't see why they should be treated any more or less seriously than other areas.
In fact - I dislike the attitude of treating the Internet and things associated with it as something inferior, silly, meaningless... Unless, of course, this is accompanied by general remarks on how everything else in life is equally of no consequence. I am also irked by people who fail to notice the parallels between social conventions, reputation, impoliteness and all the other phenomena pertaining to human interactions of both "worlds" - the digital and the analog one.
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ellynandroid: I agree.

The dismissive attitude of a lot of people online (the "it's the internet, don't take it seriously" argument) is not only ridiculous and demeaning, it encourages bullying — even from otherwise reasonably decent people. Hell, I fell prey to that mindset (briefly, until I realised what the hell I was doing) when I was younger and stupider. The distinction we make between the "real world" and the internet doesn't help, either — where are we but the real world? The internet is a method of communication, not freaking Skyrim.
Also agreed.
Posted November 14, 2012
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carnival73: I know a lot of you go by rep on here but I see it only valuable when referring to trades.

As for judging someone based on their personality, those rep points go up and down at the drop of a dime and for silly reasons.

I just had a reality check - I got a mail from a board that I only visit once a month with a new profile rating - it was negative and I was wondering 'What did I do?"

When I went to investigate it was no one I knew, just someone new who signed up and was screwing with everyone's head. XD

It's kind of a shame because if I were single I'd probably use a medium like this to meet someone but it does go to reinforce and remind to not get your feelings all bent out of wack over a social board because not many take it seriiously and seeing how easy it is to lure and trick people through social boards - it's probably a good thing that not many take it seriously.
I have the impression of my rep going down more in context of contentious opinions put forward; which I think is wrong as long as the reasoning is somehow substantiated and polite, as opposed to behaving rude towards fellow posters.

Hence my impression is that rep is more about posting "pass though the censorship of the medium opinion" - than about including, pulling in, treating encouragingly your fellows in these fora, while freely posting one's own opinions.

I personally put individual courtesy observed before the formal "rep" - the definition of which remains fuzzy to me.
Posted November 14, 2012
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Vestin: Forums are a part of life, the world and human interactions. I don't see why they should be treated any more or less seriously than other areas.
In fact - I dislike the attitude of treating the Internet and things associated with it as something inferior, silly, meaningless... Unless, of course, this is accompanied by general remarks on how everything else in life is equally of no consequence. I am also irked by people who fail to notice the parallels between social conventions, reputation, impoliteness and all the other phenomena pertaining to human interactions of both "worlds" - the digital and the analog one.
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ellynandroid: I agree.

The dismissive attitude of a lot of people online (the "it's the internet, don't take it seriously" argument) is not only ridiculous and demeaning, it encourages bullying — even from otherwise reasonably decent people. Hell, I fell prey to that mindset (briefly, until I realised what the hell I was doing) when I was younger and stupider. The distinction we make between the "real world" and the internet doesn't help, either — where are we but the real world? The internet is a method of communication, not freaking Skyrim.
Totally agree with this.
Posted November 14, 2012
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ellynandroid: I agree.

The dismissive attitude of a lot of people online (the "it's the internet, don't take it seriously" argument) is not only ridiculous and demeaning, it encourages bullying — even from otherwise reasonably decent people. Hell, I fell prey to that mindset (briefly, until I realised what the hell I was doing) when I was younger and stupider. The distinction we make between the "real world" and the internet doesn't help, either — where are we but the real world? The internet is a method of communication, not freaking Skyrim.
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Madmate: Totally agree with this.
I'm just going to give up writing, because people always say what I mean more eloquently than what I plan on writing. x3
Posted November 14, 2012
ALL OF YOU SHUT UP AND STOP SAYING STUFF!

;)
Posted November 14, 2012
Rep is only useful to see how long a person has been around and if they've interacted with the community during that time.

I've been here since almost the beginning, yet have a rep in the 400's - I don't care, but some people might.

In terms of taking stuff on the internet seriously, it's a fine line just like in the Real World. There are certain things you must take seriously, as you ARE directly (or indirectly if you prefer) interacting with other human beings.

The internet is not filled with AI. Part of the problem with technology is the usage of it. Over the last 8 years I have seen an increasing pace of degradation here in the US in terms of literacy and proper use of words. My pet peeve is when people whose primary language is American English type like they're in third grade.

I even had a friend tell me that one of his profs let a classmate use texting lingo in a paper and didn't even mark any of the words as misspelled.

My fear isn't in taking the internet seriously or not seriously, it's in the degradation of American intelligence (feel free to laugh now, Europeans and rest of the world ;) ) to the point where we become a third world country because of our reliance on technology.

A case in point: a follower on Twitter of a famous American football player I follow got retweeted by the football player saying something along these lines: "my phone keeps changing the words I'm typing" and he was PISSED. Apparently he thought the phone (which has an auto-correct feature) was deliberately misspelling his words.

What you have nowadays is an increased userbase of the internet, and with an increased userbase comes a lower bottom line. The sad thing is when you try to teach someone that the word "rouge" means makeup and not a deadly assassin, they seem willing and able to purposely misspell the word at every opportunity because you're not going to tell them what's right and wrong.

There has been a serious degradation of American intelligence over the past 8 years or so, and it's only getting worse. Pray for the internet.

Also, true story, when I was a guild leader in WoW I used to get made fun of for misspelling words that I spelled correctly.

EDIT: Sorry for derailing, I didn't mean to, but I started typing and all this stuff spewed out.
Post edited November 14, 2012 by CymTyr
Posted November 14, 2012
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El_Caz: Rep is worth something?

I guess it kinda is. It's the only way we have to give someone a pat in the back (between shoulder blades, not the rump) for doing something good. It's also the only way we can grey out threads that are mostly flame bait and such. But like any other system it can be abused.

I don't mind other people's rep, unless it's in the negatives and even then I'd be suspicious that someone has been trolling the guy up. The most I can gather from rep though is that the person posts a lot or is helpful to the community, so no wonder it can be used by others to measure the level of trust you can have on someone for a trade, but even then, it's not a foolproof system.
A flame bait thread - hmm... am I missing these in these fora by naiveté? Lest my personally most traumatic, and might I add, OP'ed thread about The Witcher 2 anti-gay themes be considered one of those.

I was very cold and bothered about the tones of some of these replies. And I don't think my rep went up either.
Posted November 14, 2012
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Vestin: Forums are a part of life, the world and human interactions. I don't see why they should be treated any more or less seriously than other areas.
In fact - I dislike the attitude of treating the Internet and things associated with it as something inferior, silly, meaningless... Unless, of course, this is accompanied by general remarks on how everything else in life is equally of no consequence. I am also irked by people who fail to notice the parallels between social conventions, reputation, impoliteness and all the other phenomena pertaining to human interactions of both "worlds" - the digital and the analog one.
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I agree - I would like to take it serioiusly. Also if I were single again (getting married next year) I'd be hanging by threads around net communication attempting to find prospects but the problem is that's a grande masquerade and so many people can be hiding behind these avatars.

ie; I got very lucky that the girl I met online and swooned for a year really did turn out to be a girl in the end. XD
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TStael: I have the impression of my rep going down more in context of contentious opinions put forward; which I think is wrong as long as the reasoning is somehow substantiated and polite, as opposed to behaving rude towards fellow posters.

Hence my impression is that rep is more about posting "pass though the censorship of the medium opinion" - than about including, pulling in, treating encouragingly your fellows in these fora, while freely posting one's own opinions.

I personally put individual courtesy observed before the formal "rep" - the definition of which remains fuzzy to me.
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That's the other thing is that rep is often just in disagreement with our philosophies or politics rather than just the polite (or not polite) manner in which we hold ourselves.
Post edited November 14, 2012 by carnival73
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