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GameRager: They weren't punishing anyone. You got a free game if you didn't have it already and discounts on other games were had by everyone else. IMO that was pretty nice of them. For others to complain(possibly) that they didn't get more/enough seems petty to me. :\
You're being obtuse. I didn't get anything free, all I got was the same discounts that everybody else got and the privilege of listening to everybody go on about how generous GOG was with them.

And believe you me, that's none too special as most retailers have discounts during the holiday season.

Well, the thing is that where I'm from it's not considered generous to openly give something to half the class and nothing to the remaining students. It really degrades the whole spirit of things to have others restricted to appreciating the generosity being given to others without being included at all.

I haven't exactly been boycotting GOG, but I have greatly slowed the rate at which I've bought games and thinking twice about buying games that I won't have time to play in the immediate future in case I get left out again in the future.
By "you" I meant those who didn't have it already.....my bad for not clarifying.

Thing is, they didn't have to give anything at all(even the discounts).

As to your class paragraph: What if they gave away candy in a class and half the class was diabetic and couldn't eat it? Should they not give candy out at all/throw it away because of that?
Post edited April 04, 2012 by GameRager
Can someone tell me what exactly happened? "GOG decided to not give anything to their most loyal buyers" doesn't mean that much to me. I guess I'm just not deep enough in GOG lore. But I'm curious.
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ET3D: Can someone tell me what exactly happened? "GOG decided to not give anything to their most loyal buyers" doesn't mean that much to me. I guess I'm just not deep enough in GOG lore. But I'm curious.
People gave a free GOG game to everyone....those who bought it prior to that(some) felt gipped. Even though GOG also gave us contests to win other games(which some also complained about due to some contests being on FB/Twitter and some here being adamant about not clicking on said sites, or due to the HOUR during which some gift codes were displayed on the forums for non-offsite contests being unfair to those at work or asleep at the time...etc), and discounts on most games here....etc.
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ET3D: Can someone tell me what exactly happened? "GOG decided to not give anything to their most loyal buyers" doesn't mean that much to me. I guess I'm just not deep enough in GOG lore. But I'm curious.
A bit before Christmas, gog hit the 6 million downloads and for 48 hours dropped the price of Empire Earth to $0.00. If you didn't have it already, you got a free game, if you had bought it before, tough luck, nothing for you.
So, if you were supporting GOG.com and were buying games, you wouldn't get a free game.
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ET3D: Can someone tell me what exactly happened? "GOG decided to not give anything to their most loyal buyers" doesn't mean that much to me. I guess I'm just not deep enough in GOG lore. But I'm curious.
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JMich: A bit before Christmas, gog hit the 6 million downloads and for 48 hours dropped the price of Empire Earth to $0.00. If you didn't have it already, you got a free game, if you had bought it before, tough luck, nothing for you.
So, if you were supporting GOG.com and were buying games, you wouldn't get a free game.
Why should supporting GOG entitle anyone to a free anything? ;\

Not digging at you personally, BTW....although I wonder how the same people would have felt/acted if they got the game and everyone else didn't, or if they got a game they didn't like for free.
Post edited April 04, 2012 by GameRager
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JMich: So, if you were supporting GOG.com and were buying games, you wouldn't get a free game.
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GameRager: Why should supporting GOG entitle anyone to a free anything? ;\
My statement doesn't say you should get a free game.
As was mentioned then, by buying the game before it was given out, you had the chance to enjoy it earlier, and other people where comparing it as equal to waiting for a new game to go lower in price before buying it. You pay a higher price because you want to enjoy the game earlier instead of waiting for a price drop to enjoy the game cheaper. Should those that paid $60 for AAA title ask for $40 dollars back when that game drops in price to $20?

P.S. We do agree that GOG.com doesn't owe us anything, but I also like when a shop "rewards" the return/frequent customers with any benefits.
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GameRager: Why should supporting GOG entitle anyone to a free anything? ;\
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JMich: My statement doesn't say you should get a free game.
As was mentioned then, by buying the game before it was given out, you had the chance to enjoy it earlier, and other people where comparing it as equal to waiting for a new game to go lower in price before buying it. You pay a higher price because you want to enjoy the game earlier instead of waiting for a price drop to enjoy the game cheaper. Should those that paid $60 for AAA title ask for $40 dollars back when that game drops in price to $20?

P.S. We do agree that GOG.com doesn't owe us anything, but I also like when a shop "rewards" the return/frequent customers with any benefits.
I wasn't personally targeting you with that comment, btw...it was more a reply to the last line you wrote.

I agree on most of your new reply as well, btw.
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ET3D: Can someone tell me what exactly happened? "GOG decided to not give anything to their most loyal buyers" doesn't mean that much to me. I guess I'm just not deep enough in GOG lore. But I'm curious.
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JMich: A bit before Christmas, gog hit the 6 million downloads and for 48 hours dropped the price of Empire Earth to $0.00. If you didn't have it already, you got a free game, if you had bought it before, tough luck, nothing for you.
So, if you were supporting GOG.com and were buying games, you wouldn't get a free game.
Thanks for the clarification. In that case, I don't think it's that huge a deal. It's not a matter of people who supported GOG getting screwed, it's just a matter of people who bought this particular game not getting anything. It happens. I bought Portal on Steam and it was later given for free. I also bought quite a few games which were later reduced in price. In fact, the MMO's I played are now free to play (although with restrictions).

It's disappointing when everyone is given something you paid for, but I think that the spin of "GOG decided not to give anything to their most loyal buyers" is plain wrong. If someone bought just Empire Earth, they'd still not get a thing. If they bought tons of games but that wasn't one of them, they got the game. It's just the luck of the draw.
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GameRager: By "you" I meant those who didn't have it already.....my bad for not clarifying.

Thing is, they didn't have to give anything at all(even the discounts).

As to your class paragraph: What if they gave away candy in a class and half the class was diabetic and couldn't eat it? Should they not give candy out at all/throw it away because of that?
That's a dumb arguement, I've actually been in that situation and somethng different was given to the diabetic.

And, fyi, a (edit.. hypothetical) situation where some people do get something for free simply by virtue of the fact that they haven't bought it, then yes, the customers who did buy it are being penalized.
Post edited April 04, 2012 by Tormentfan
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GameRager: By "you" I meant those who didn't have it already.....my bad for not clarifying.

Thing is, they didn't have to give anything at all(even the discounts).

As to your class paragraph: What if they gave away candy in a class and half the class was diabetic and couldn't eat it? Should they not give candy out at all/throw it away because of that?
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Tormentfan: That's a dumb arguement, I've actually been in that situation and somethng different was given to the diabetic.

And, fyi, a (edit.. hypothetical) situation where some people do get something for free simply by virtue of the fact that they haven't bought it, then yes, the customers who did buy it are being penalized.
What if they didn't have time to go buy something for the diabetics, or forgot....etc?

Also tough titties.....if people don't get something then they should learn to COPE & not be upset about it like errant children. End of story. No one in this life deserves anything from anyone beyond food/shelter/the stuff in the constitution(or your country's laws.)/etc.
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Tormentfan: That's a dumb arguement, I've actually been in that situation and somethng different was given to the diabetic.

And, fyi, a (edit.. hypothetical) situation where some people do get something for free simply by virtue of the fact that they haven't bought it, then yes, the customers who did buy it are being penalized.
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GameRager: What if they didn't have time to go buy something for the diabetics, or forgot....etc?

Also tough titties.....if people don't get something then they should learn to COPE & not be upset about it like errant children. End of story. No one in this life deserves anything from anyone beyond food/shelter/the stuff in the constitution(or your country's laws.)/etc.
What if, what if,

Any descent organiser of such a thing would make sure they weren't forgotten... and frankly YES, if it means excluding someone for reasons not their fault, then no one should get it.

Or are you a proponent of the 'I'm alright, jack' school of though.. THAT is the selfish way of thinking, not the other way around, FOOL.
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Tormentfan: What if, what if,

Any descent organiser of such a thing would make sure they weren't forgotten... and frankly YES, if it means excluding someone for reasons not their fault, then no one should get it.

Or are you a proponent of the 'I'm alright, jack' school of though.. THAT is the selfish way of thinking, not the other way around, FOOL.
Yes, what if situations are the basis of HYPOTHETICAL statements, or did you not know that? ;)
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Heck i'd think it was fair even if I was one of the diabetics. I'd be disappointed but I wouldn't complain about it.

I'm all for being as fair as possible, but I never subscribed to stuff like "being forced to be overly fair lest we offend someone's sensibilities" type things like participation ribbons/everyone's a winner/men on women's sports teams(and vice versa)/etc. Not everyone can be a winner, and not everyone can benefit from or be a part of everything.
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Tough titties academy, actually....now get off OUR lawn reprobate...you're messing up the grass. :P

(Your school, "I get some or no one else does *shakes fists*" is over that way, kiddo.)
Post edited April 04, 2012 by GameRager
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Tormentfan: What if, what if,

Any descent organiser of such a thing would make sure they weren't forgotten... and frankly YES, if it means excluding someone for reasons not their fault, then no one should get it.

Or are you a proponent of the 'I'm alright, jack' school of though.. THAT is the selfish way of thinking, not the other way around, FOOL.
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GameRager: Yes, what if situations are the basis of HYPOTHETICAL statements, or did you not know that? ;)
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Heck i'd think it was fair even if I was one of the diabetics. I'd be disappointed but I wouldn't complain about it.

I'm all for being as fair as possible, but I never subscribed to stuff like "being forced to be overly fair lest we offend someone's sensibilities" type things like participation ribbons/everyone's a winner/men on women's sports teams(and vice versa)/etc. Not everyone can be a winner, and not everyone can benefit from or be a part of everything.
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Tough titties academy, actually....now get off OUR lawn reprobate...you're messing up the grass. :P

(Your school, "I get some or no one else does *shakes fists*" is over that way, kiddo.)
I'm not even going to argue with you about tis any longer, your point of view is deplorable.... it's fine to give something to some people and fuck the rest.

You suck.
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Tormentfan: I'm not even going to argue with you about tis any longer, your point of view is deplorable.... it's fine to give something to some people and fuck the rest.

You suck.
No, my point of view is REALISTIC......should we not give anything to anyone because everyone doesn't stand to benefit? For example: Let's not give people food stamps and income aid because not everyone can get it.

Life isn't always fair to everyone....learn to accept that fact and make the best out of what you get/have and not be jealous when things don't go your way, or try to make suggestions to change the system you find so unfair and see what happens. If nothing happens as a result don't shake your fists and cry over it like a child, as that's neither civil or productive.

And thanks for telling me how much I suck. Very classy.