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General discussion (archive)Sid Meier's Civilization V Shipping with Steamworks(104 posts)(104 posts)
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Posted May 06, 2010
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drmlessgames: Steam adds a ton of overhead to my bandwidth, which isnt that good to start with. That without counting the 10+ gigs it has to download per game average nowadays. I'll skip this. If they want a digital always-ready download, why don't they just offer a sort of official torrent download that you have to activate with a retail key?
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AndrewC: You know you can just buy it retail and install it from disc like The Orange Box for example; this means that it will be activated on your Steam account but you will use the physical media to install so no download needed except for patches.
I'm actually really happy that it will be on Steam. Most of my games are there, most of the people I play with are there and if they will integrate match-making with the Friends List then it's even better.

Well, not necessarily. It depends on how well the devs/publishers support the Steam version.
Some publishers/devs don't really care, and the "patches" are just a case of redownloading the entire game.
That being said, Steamworks would suggest that the patches will actually be patches, and not redownloads. But if bandwidth is an issue, you might want to wait a few weeks to see how they get handled.
Posted May 06, 2010
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drmlessgames: Steam adds a ton of overhead to my bandwidth, which isnt that good to start with. That without counting the 10+ gigs it has to download per game average nowadays. I'll skip this. If they want a digital always-ready download, why don't they just offer a sort of official torrent download that you have to activate with a retail key?
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AndrewC: You know you can just buy it retail and install it from disc like The Orange Box for example; this means that it will be activated on your Steam account but you will use the physical media to install so no download needed except for patches.
I'm actually really happy that it will be on Steam. Most of my games are there, most of the people I play with are there and if they will integrate match-making with the Friends List then it's even better.

I suppose, but that defeats the entire point of digital games. So it's either their crappy bandwidth killing download service, or brick and mortar. Why can't they just bring about the already available downloading methods like torrents and such, which are much more reliable than theirs I may add. I myself am not in the usa, i would have to order the 50$ boxed game and pay S&H. And wait about 3-4 weeks before it arrives.
Posted May 06, 2010
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lackoo1111: too bad lots of "casual gamers" ( you know what i mean ) will buy it on Steam

Hah! Indeed =)
Posted May 06, 2010
That's rather unfortunate. If this news remains true when the game is released then I guess I'll be passing on it and sticking with Civ 4.
Posted May 06, 2010
So is Valve now the QA and technical support of every major game company now? When are they going to have time to work on their own games ?? ; )
Posted May 06, 2010
FUCK...
Posted May 06, 2010
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drmlessgames: So is Valve now the QA and technical support of every major game company now? When are they going to have time to work on their own games ?? ; )
Gabe's song
Posted May 06, 2010
Not sure if I care for this or not ... but at least it is not GFWL and its unclear number of activations and other annoyances.
Posted May 06, 2010
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drmlessgames: I suppose, but that defeats the entire point of digital games. So it's either their crappy bandwidth killing download service, or brick and mortar. Why can't they just bring about the already available downloading methods like torrents and such, which are much more reliable than theirs I may add. I myself am not in the usa, i would have to order the 50$ boxed game and pay S&H. And wait about 3-4 weeks before it arrives.

Even if they released it as a torrent, there's no promise that their patch would literally be a patch and not some large redownload of game resources. It's really up to the developer to make sure patches aren't problematic.
Posted May 06, 2010
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tacitus59: Not sure if I care for this or not ... but at least it is not GFWL and its unclear number of activations and other annoyances.

Well we cannot be sure about it at this point. It might need Steam and GFWL at the same time.
Posted May 06, 2010
speaking about redownloading a game.
CoD MW 2
SupCom 2
anyone had to redownload these, even if he owns the retail copy ?
Not only will the game support many Steamworks features but there will also be a digital deluxe version of the game via Steam. That version, which costs $59.99, will add the Babylonia civilization to the game along with a behind-the-scenes video feature and the game's soundtrack.
Both the regular and digital deluxe edition will be eligible to get an extra Mesopotamia map pack if players pre-order the game via Steam.

that's 59.99€
nice move Gabe
Post edited May 06, 2010 by lackoo1111
Posted May 06, 2010
So does this mean that someone without a Steam account cannot play the game?
Posted May 06, 2010
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Syme: So does this mean that someone without a Steam account cannot play the game?

Yep, this game is forever tied to steam, you want to play it you need steam now.
Post edited May 06, 2010 by Ralackk
Posted May 06, 2010
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drmlessgames: I suppose, but that defeats the entire point of digital games. So it's either their crappy bandwidth killing download service, or brick and mortar. Why can't they just bring about the already available downloading methods like torrents and such, which are much more reliable than theirs I may add. I myself am not in the usa, i would have to order the 50$ boxed game and pay S&H. And wait about 3-4 weeks before it arrives.

Releasing as torrents has hell of a lot of issues regarding authentication and verifying that the person downloading is indeed the owner of said files.
As for crappy bandwidth killing download service, I think you need to talk to your ISP ;)
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lackoo1111: that's 59.99€
nice move Gabe

What the heck has that to do with Gabe? And I again don't see the problem here: you want to play with the babylonians, then buy that extended version (think of it as a collectors edition). The whole 2 versions of the game comes from the devs and not Valve.
Post edited May 06, 2010 by AndrewC
Posted May 06, 2010
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AndrewC: Releasing as torrents has hell of a lot of issues regarding authentication and verifying that the person downloading is indeed the owner of said files.

Yeah but downloading the torrent is useless unless you have a legal key or you are a cracker.
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