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Posted August 27, 2013
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Stooner: I'm pretty sure he already know this... ;p
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Momo1991: I hope so since I replied hours ago in another thread! ;-p
Not exactly what I meant... but whatever.. ;p

I think he wants to know how to gift a shinyloot game, which I think it's not possible at the moment, and the key redeeming is just for promotions.
Posted August 27, 2013
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Momo1991: I hope so since I replied hours ago in another thread! ;-p
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Stooner: Not exactly what I meant... but whatever.. ;p

I think he wants to know how to gift a shinyloot game, which I think it's not possible at the moment, and the key redeeming is just for promotions.
Ahhh, got it ;-)
Posted August 27, 2013
Do we really need yet another indie store? ;)
Posted August 28, 2013
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nijuu: Do we really need yet another indie store? ;)
I've finally managed to buy Lost Chronicles of Zerzura, and DRM-Free too. In my eyes, ShinyLoot have fully justified their existence.
Posted August 28, 2013
I've kept my eye on ShinyLoot for a while but haven't bought anything yet. This sale might finally tip the scale for me. More DRM-free stores are always welcome.
Posted August 28, 2013
Kaptain Brawe: A Brawe New World is $2.00 as one of the daily deals. I don't think the game has been offered elsewhere DRM-Free.
Posted August 28, 2013
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Stooner: Not exactly what I meant... but whatever.. ;p

I think he wants to know how to gift a shinyloot game, which I think it's not possible at the moment, and the key redeeming is just for promotions.
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Momo1991: Ahhh, got it ;-)
The skeleton be correct. I'm already a dab hand at the key drop. :)
Posted August 28, 2013
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hedwards: Well, that's plain confusing. I could swear that the GFWL logo was basically identical to the one they're using.
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Foxhack: It is.

If it says "Live", it's GFWL. It doesn't say Live so it's not GFWL.
So, it's bad design then. In the thumbnails I can't really read the full logo very well.

You're not supposed to have to read the logo to know what it means. Then again, nobody has ever accused Microsoft of knowing what they're doing or being competent at marketing.
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nijuu: Do we really need yet another indie store? ;)
I'm not sure we really have that many of them. Plus, with the Bigfish store closed a spot opened up.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by hedwards
Posted August 28, 2013
I must say I'm a bit confused. So their "No added DRM" does not mean the same as DRM-free? Some of their games still require online activation, or what?
Posted August 28, 2013
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timppu: I must say I'm a bit confused. So their "No added DRM" does not mean the same as DRM-free? Some of their games still require online activation, or what?
It just means that ShinyLoot doesn't add any. The games themselves might, though. The information on the right should describe what DRM it has or if it's DRM free.

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There is a search filter for "DRM Type", it's choices are "None" and "One Time Key Activation".
Post edited August 28, 2013 by adambiser
Posted August 28, 2013
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timppu: I must say I'm a bit confused. So their "No added DRM" does not mean the same as DRM-free? Some of their games still require online activation, or what?
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adambiser: It just means that ShinyLoot doesn't add any. The games themselves might, though.
LOL, figures. :D "DRM-free" posers.

Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
Post edited August 28, 2013 by timppu
Posted August 28, 2013
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adambiser: It just means that ShinyLoot doesn't add any. The games themselves might, though.
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timppu: LOL, figures. :D "DRM-free" posers.

Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
To clarify a little more, they don't allow games with SecuROM or Tages (which GG does allow).

One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game

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But of course, you're welcome to use whatever store you want. :)
Post edited August 28, 2013 by adambiser
Posted August 28, 2013
Here's a recent interview with Chris Palmarozzi of ShinyLoot for anyone interested - addresses ShinyLoot's stand on DRM.
Posted August 28, 2013
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adambiser: To clarify a little more, they don't allow games with SecuROM or Tages (which GG does allow).

One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
SpaceChem is the only One Time Key Validation game I've bought from there so far, and while I haven't installed it yet, it seems like it would function pretty much as a CD key does. I don't know if it goes online to verify the key, or if it limits the reinstallation options later if so.
Posted August 28, 2013
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timppu: LOL, figures. :D "DRM-free" posers.

Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
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adambiser: To clarify a little more, they don't allow games with SecuROM or Tages (which GG does allow).

One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game

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But of course, you're welcome to use whatever store you want. :)
Yeah, I guess there's a reason I write this on a GOG forum, and not ShinyLoot or Steampowered forums. Don't know what your reason to write here is. :)

Mentioning "one time key activation" with online game components doesn't make sense, as naturally with online (multiplayer) games you are validated every time you start playing.

I guess the linked interview clarified it more, ie. they allow (single-player) DRM as long as it requires authentication only once. I just hope they were not trying to be cute there and soon reveal "Well, we meant you only need to authenticate once every time you start the game, hee, hee, hee...".

So at best they sell like Steamworks games which don't have additional third-party DRM, and have actually functional offline mode. But still far from GOG's lack of DRM.

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IAmSinistar: SpaceChem is the only One Time Key Validation game I've bought from there so far, and while I haven't installed it yet, it seems like it would function pretty much as a CD key does. I don't know if it goes online to verify the key, or if it limits the reinstallation options later if so.
They say this in the interview:

Because we also support minimal DRM (one time key validations), we sell games that other DRM-free stores who don't support key distribution cannot sell. A great example of a popular, minimal-DRM, Linux supported title is SpaceChem. These security measures are non-intrusive and require very little extra effort from the customer, while allowing the developer to still protect their game.
That statement doesn't make much sense to me, considering both GOG and HumbleBundle are selling the same game completely DRM-free.

Oh well, not my loss. I personally see zero reason to buy pretty much anything from them, YMMV. Just wanted a clarification as so many others in this thread also seemed to think it is a new DRM-free store akin GOG and DotEmu, while in reality it is not.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by timppu
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