Posted August 27, 2013
Stooner
still sober
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From Brazil
Momo1991
FIX OUR FORUM!
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From United States
Posted August 27, 2013
Niggles
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From Australia
Posted August 27, 2013
Do we really need yet another indie store? ;)
Gonchi
Incorrigible
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From Uruguay
RaggieRags
Schattenjäger
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From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
I've kept my eye on ShinyLoot for a while but haven't bought anything yet. This sale might finally tip the scale for me. More DRM-free stores are always welcome.
Gonchi
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From Uruguay
Posted August 28, 2013
Kaptain Brawe: A Brawe New World is $2.00 as one of the daily deals. I don't think the game has been offered elsewhere DRM-Free.
IAmSinistar
Queso de Espacio
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From United States
Posted August 28, 2013
hedwards
buy Evil Genius
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Posted August 28, 2013
hedwards: Well, that's plain confusing. I could swear that the GFWL logo was basically identical to the one they're using.
Foxhack: It is. If it says "Live", it's GFWL. It doesn't say Live so it's not GFWL.
You're not supposed to have to read the logo to know what it means. Then again, nobody has ever accused Microsoft of knowing what they're doing or being competent at marketing.
I'm not sure we really have that many of them. Plus, with the Bigfish store closed a spot opened up.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by hedwards
timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
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From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
I must say I'm a bit confused. So their "No added DRM" does not mean the same as DRM-free? Some of their games still require online activation, or what?
adambiser
fascimania.com
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Posted August 28, 2013
timppu: I must say I'm a bit confused. So their "No added DRM" does not mean the same as DRM-free? Some of their games still require online activation, or what?
It just means that ShinyLoot doesn't add any. The games themselves might, though. The information on the right should describe what DRM it has or if it's DRM free. EDIT:
There is a search filter for "DRM Type", it's choices are "None" and "One Time Key Activation".
Post edited August 28, 2013 by adambiser
timppu
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adambiser
fascimania.com
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Posted August 28, 2013
timppu: LOL, figures. :D "DRM-free" posers.
Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
To clarify a little more, they don't allow games with SecuROM or Tages (which GG does allow). Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
EDIT:
But of course, you're welcome to use whatever store you want. :)
Post edited August 28, 2013 by adambiser
HypersomniacLive
The Reluctant Voter
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From Vatican City
Posted August 28, 2013
Here's a recent interview with Chris Palmarozzi of ShinyLoot for anyone interested - addresses ShinyLoot's stand on DRM.
IAmSinistar
Queso de Espacio
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Posted August 28, 2013
adambiser: To clarify a little more, they don't allow games with SecuROM or Tages (which GG does allow).
One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
SpaceChem is the only One Time Key Validation game I've bought from there so far, and while I haven't installed it yet, it seems like it would function pretty much as a CD key does. I don't know if it goes online to verify the key, or if it limits the reinstallation options later if so.One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
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From Finland
Posted August 28, 2013
timppu: LOL, figures. :D "DRM-free" posers.
Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
adambiser: To clarify a little more, they don't allow games with SecuROM or Tages (which GG does allow). Pass. It's yet another GamersGate (but without AAA titles, I guess).
One time key activation seems to be the only DRM they've allowed so far. Whether that just means the key is only needed for online play like it does for some of GOG's games will depend on the game
EDIT:
But of course, you're welcome to use whatever store you want. :)
Mentioning "one time key activation" with online game components doesn't make sense, as naturally with online (multiplayer) games you are validated every time you start playing.
I guess the linked interview clarified it more, ie. they allow (single-player) DRM as long as it requires authentication only once. I just hope they were not trying to be cute there and soon reveal "Well, we meant you only need to authenticate once every time you start the game, hee, hee, hee...".
So at best they sell like Steamworks games which don't have additional third-party DRM, and have actually functional offline mode. But still far from GOG's lack of DRM.
IAmSinistar: SpaceChem is the only One Time Key Validation game I've bought from there so far, and while I haven't installed it yet, it seems like it would function pretty much as a CD key does. I don't know if it goes online to verify the key, or if it limits the reinstallation options later if so.
They say this in the interview: Because we also support minimal DRM (one time key validations), we sell games that other DRM-free stores who don't support key distribution cannot sell. A great example of a popular, minimal-DRM, Linux supported title is SpaceChem. These security measures are non-intrusive and require very little extra effort from the customer, while allowing the developer to still protect their game.
Oh well, not my loss. I personally see zero reason to buy pretty much anything from them, YMMV. Just wanted a clarification as so many others in this thread also seemed to think it is a new DRM-free store akin GOG and DotEmu, while in reality it is not.
Post edited August 28, 2013 by timppu