scampywiak: Calling a suicide selfish smacks too much of the traditional christian scorn on the issue. I'm not supporting the way he did this; there are better ways to off yourself. But I'm not about to judge his decision.

justanoldgamer: Not necessarily true. My life insurance covers suicide.

F4LL0UT: Seen it, been there. It's may way of dealing with it. As I said before, I'm aware of suicide victims often (or usually) being incapable of rational thought when they do it, being victims of circumstance or medical conditions etc.. But these people often still have interest in making ethically good choices. That's why it's so friggin' important to draw a clear line and say "if you cross it you're an asshole, you become worse than whatever and whoever is making you miserable". Awareness of what they do to others and what they become by committing suicide may save lives.

cjrgreen: The absolute worst thing to say to a potential suicide is "you're an asshole". Who the hell made you their judge?

A potential suicide is already failing to cope with a load of guilt and shame that you can't even begin to comprehend, with a mind that isn't firing on all cylinders for reasons that have nothing to do with being an "asshole".

So you would add to his burden in the bullshit belief that compounding his shame will shame him away from the edge? Damn, I hope you and all the others in this thread who think like that never even so much as think of volunteering for a suicide prevention hotline.

Foxhack: He was one of the people that inspired me to try to start reviewing all the odd things I own.

I was even hoping to do a "You Can Play This" crossover with him one day.

I'm glad my depression never reached a level where I'd consider suicide to be the only option.

cjrgreen: I am glad you feel you have earned the right to judge others for what you have not gone through yourself.

trusteft: I only heard of him once or twice, I don't know him and never to the best of my memory watched any of this videos.
It's a shame when someone ends his own life. Perhaps understandable under certain extreme conditions. If for example you are already dying and you you have just a bit of life left in extreme pain etc.
Or you jump on a grenade to save others, etc.

But to leave a family back, a wife and kids who will have to continue their own travel in life alone, because you took your own life out. No. I can't forgive this. If you are alone with no people depending on you, go ahead do the stupid thing if you so much desire it. But to leave others behind who need you. Fuck you. Selfish motherfucker. I hope his wife and kids get over this ASAP. They deserve better.

And if people disagree with me, I don't give a fuck. That's my opinion and I am not going to change it because it's not the p.c. thing to say.

Hawk52: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42100-in-loving-memory-of-justin-carmical

Here's a tribute video, if you haven't seen it.

I suffer from severe depression, but this could have very easily been me a few years back. Obviously not the fame part, but no one knew I was depressed. No one knew what I was suffering through or what I was doing to myself every single day. I put on a mask, covering myself up in false niceties to tell everyone I was okay, that nothing was wrong. When in truth, I'd lay in bed and cry about how much I hated myself and how I didn't deserve to exist. No one would have known why I killed myself, everyone would have thought I was a happy, normal, if shut in person.

When I finally did reveal my depression and how severe it was, I was met with a lot of skepticism, and "You don't have depression" or "depression isn't a real thing". I still face that sometimes. But I'm still trying to get help and to "fix" myself. I don't feel like I've made much progress, but I'm trying. And there are days when the pills don't help, and I want to just give up on everything.

So, before you judge someone for their decision making in this situation; consider that unless you've lived with depression or you've studied it clinically; you can't understand it. You just can't. And virtually anyone with training will tell you that, unless you are medically trained to understand depression it's impossible to comprehend because the brain isn't functioning correctly.

By all accounts Justin Carmical was a good person who let his demons overwhelm him. Anyone can give in to their demons. So before you call him things or come into a thread honoring him by those who feel deeply troubled by what happened, look yourself in the mirror and realize that you yourself could one day fall into the same pit and sometimes you just can't crawl out.

Elmofongo: I apologize deeply for asking this, but what are you depressed about exactly? When I hear people with depression I always ask what are you depressed about, there has to be a cause or reason for depression, it cannot just happen for no reason.

Mr.Caine: chemical imbalance doesn't require no cause.