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Tormentfan: There's research that demonstrates the positive effects of coloured fliters for dyslexia sufferers, who can also claim certain motion impaction on their ability to read properly.
As it all has to do with the way the brain reads images, be they words, video or static pictures.
That's very interesting. I'm about as dyslexic as it gets, but no one ever mentioned that there might be a link between that and this. It does make a lot of sense too. Having said that, after my last experience, I'm reluctant to even try anything again. I don't know what the worst that can happen is, but not being able to see, even only for about a minute (possibly even less) was a very scary experience.

Anyways, I'm sorry for derailing the thread again. The game looks awesome, and I look forward to seeing the reviews when it's out, even if I won't be able to join in the fun :)
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Tormentfan: Maybe you've come to expect to feel sick and therefore you do? Doesn't change the symptoms, I know, but it does change the cause and possible remedies.

Have you tried travel motion sickness tablets?
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MonstaMunch: I've tried everything, including making a thread on the forums to get ideas, all of which I tried. A lot of people suggested that it's psychological and that I should just "get over it" and stuff, but it really really isn't. I've spent hundreds of dollars on games that I knew would make me sick just to try and "get over it", not to mention the wrist bands, acupuncture etc, and twice continued playing even after throwing up and getting dizzy, which resulted in muscle spasms and almost a full on fit (I'm not epileptic or anything).

The second time was quite serious and scared the hell out of my girlfriend (I was trying to play Far Cry about a month after that thread). The muscles in my face were spazing out and I literally went blind for about a minute. Haven't touched a first person game since then.
You are not alone , I suffer from same.... I can get *VERY* violently ill if I do not respect when I can feel the naseau and dizziness comming.....
I have been told that game Field Of View influences this.....
What I have found helps a little is to sit far enough away from e.g. an 19" square screen and try to not focus too much on the screen picture itself but rather try to de-focus so that the screen becomes part of the room.... Sitting about one and a half meter away from the screen I actually were able to play Sniper:Ghost Warrior , by taking it in pieces , stop and save every time I started to feel ill..
But I guess that most games that are too 3D-ish or I don't know too first person shooter I simply can not play, some "Adventure"/"RPG"/"Action"games makes me ill too for same reason....
The condition people like we have is not to be taken lightly.... I rember when Doom came out and were invited to try it on a 21" screen at a company where I used to come and after very few minutes I became very ill... It were back then that I discovered that computer games could do this to me. Up until then I had "only" been "Carsick", "Sea-sick" and gotten much more ill from drinking alchohol than people usually do (normally people can get a serious "hangover" from "drinking" , I can get *very* ill).....

P.S.
I am NOT dyslexic so for me it is unrelated to the condition mentioned above.
Also there seems to be something wrong with some of the spacing with some of the words in this post but sorry not my doing as far as I know....
Post edited March 30, 2012 by FiatLux
Oh man, I can't wait...I want the game now, hah...
I really need a good PC game right about now. I guess I should find something else in the meantime, ech.
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Fatal-X: Oh man, I can't wait...I want the game now, hah...
I really need a good PC game right about now. I guess I should find something else in the meantime, ech.
Arcanum is only $2.99 :D
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wjousts: How are there 24 user ratings for a pre-order?
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Darling_Jimmy: Just the question I was going to ask. Have people bought this elsewhere already? How have they played it?
So? No explanation then? I've also thought the ratings on GOG where a tad suspicious, but this is just taking the piss. There isn't even a way for you to rate the game and yet it has 24 ratings.
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Darling_Jimmy: Just the question I was going to ask. Have people bought this elsewhere already? How have they played it?
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wjousts: So? No explanation then? I've also thought the ratings on GOG where a tad suspicious, but this is just taking the piss. There isn't even a way for you to rate the game and yet it has 24 ratings.
Oi! It's a bug, afaik. People originally were posting actual reviews before the game came out, then one of the GOG reps stepped in and deleted those. Not sure why the stars are still there, though.
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Lexor: I think, as someone mentioned before, developers get similar share of profits - no matter where you buy the game. Why? Here they will share profit with GOG, but buying on their site you are getting Steam key so I am supposing they still share their profit with Steam out there.
Actually, the developers have said on their forum that it's better for them if you purchase the game directly from their website instead of GOG, despite the fact that they also give you a Steam key.
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Hi ! ,

I know that a lot of people will probably get very mad at me for writing this - but as I have never been very popular anyway then I really do not care.....

I've been thinking this thread and its discussions over and I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people have a very petty attitude about this.... (With this I mean vhere to preorder from)
Yes , some people say : buy from the developer because then you will support the developer the most because the developer will then get the most money out of it.
Other people says : buy from the developer then you will get a Steam Key also (and that kind of sounded attractive to me too until I had time to think it over.....)

With respect to supporting the developer by buying directly from the developer then I would say , OK! , but really!! , why give extra support to a developer that will rather give its money to a DRM tight place like Steam than to GOG.com ???.
With respect to getting a Steam key then I think that it is purely either psychological or very petty... Cause in the end , then as long as you get the game (and the GOG.com goodies) then why should one really care if one gets a freakin' Steam key or not......

I think that people should make a statement by buying the game from GOG!!!!
A statement that says that not only do we want our games to be DRM free but we would also much rather support a DRM free place like GOG.com than a DRM tight place like Steam....
Yes , the game would look nice on your Steam shelf if you have one or the Steam key could possibly (I don't know) be traded (?) But in the end any such thing no matter the motive would only be an act of supporting Steam rather than GOG.com.....

Anyone who knows enough about Steam and it policies and doings would rather be supporting GOG.com than Steam....

Now ! , I have made a statement as to what I think but I do not want to waste my life discussing this endlessly here in this forum. If you agree with what I have written then "Great" , if you do not then I do not care if you want to poor out your rage on me (wouldn't be the first time people have been doing that) so if you do not agree to my "statement" then I am sorry but do not hold your breath for me wasting my time on discussing it with you here......

The price for the game will be the same if you preorder so why not "make a statement" and support GOG.com by preordering from GOG.com if you really want the game and really wants to support the concept of a (potentially) DRM free "game world"..... ????!!!!
(Until "people" generally starts making statements like that when having the CLEAR CHOICE then I do not think that we are going to see any major shifts in how things work - if we ever will that is...)
Post edited April 01, 2012 by FiatLux
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FiatLux: With respect to getting a Steam key then I think that it is purely either psychological or very petty... Cause in the end , then as long as you get the game (and the GOG.com) goodies then why should one really care if one gets a freakin' Steam key or not......

I think that people should make a statement by buying the game from GOG!!!!
A statement that says that not only do we want our games to be DRM free but we would also much rather support a DRM free place like GOG.com than a DRM tight place like Steam....
Yes , the game would look nice on your Steam shelf if you have one or the Steam key could possibly (I don't know) be traded (?) But in the end any such thing no matter the motive would only be an act of supporting Steam rather than GOG.com.....

Anyone who knows enough about Steam and it policies and doings would rather be supporting GOG.lcom than Steam....

Now ! , I have made a statement as to what I think but I do not want to waste my life discussing this endlessly here in this forum. If you agree with what I have written then "Great" , if you do not then I do not care if you want to poor out your rage on me (wouldn't be the first time people have been doing that) so if you do not agree to my "statement" then I am sorry but do not hold your breath for me wasting my time on discussing it with you here......

The price for the game will be the same if you preorder so why not "make a statement" and support GOG.com by preordering from GOG.com if you really want the game and really wants to support the concept of a (potentially) DRM free "game world"..... ????!!!!
(Until "people" generally starts making statements like that when having the CLEAR CHOICE then I do not think that we are going to see any major shifts in how things work - if we ever will that is...)
*clap clap**. Well said :).
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FiatLux: Hi ! ,

I know that a lot of people will probably get very mad at me for writing this - but as I have never been very popular anyway then I really do not care.....

I've been thinking this thread and its discussions over and I have come to the conclusion that a lot of people have a very petty attitude about this.... (With this I mean vhere to preorder from)
Yes , some people say : buy from the developer because then you will support the developer the most because the developer will then get the most money out of it.
Other people says : buy from the developer then you will get a Steam Key also (and that kind of sounded attractive to me too until I had time to think it over.....)

With respect to supporting the developer by buying directly from the developer then I would say , OK! , but really!! , why give extra support to a developer that will rather give its money to a DRM tight place like Steam than to GOG.com ???.
With respect to getting a Steam key then I think that it is purely either psychological or very petty... Cause in the end , then as long as you get the game (and the GOG.com goodies) then why should one really care if one gets a freakin' Steam key or not......

I think that people should make a statement by buying the game from GOG!!!!
A statement that says that not only do we want our games to be DRM free but we would also much rather support a DRM free place like GOG.com than a DRM tight place like Steam....
Yes , the game would look nice on your Steam shelf if you have one or the Steam key could possibly (I don't know) be traded (?) But in the end any such thing no matter the motive would only be an act of supporting Steam rather than GOG.com.....

Anyone who knows enough about Steam and it policies and doings would rather be supporting GOG.lcom than Steam....

Now ! , I have made a statement as to what I think but I do not want to waste my life discussing this endlessly here in this forum. If you agree with what I have written then "Great" , if you do not then I do not care if you want to poor out your rage on me (wouldn't be the first time people have been doing that) so if you do not agree to my "statement" then I am sorry but do not hold your breath for me wasting my time on discussing it with you here......

The price for the game will be the same if you preorder so why not "make a statement" and support GOG.com by preordering from GOG.com if you really want the game and really wants to support the concept of a (potentially) DRM free "game world"..... ????!!!!
(Until "people" generally starts making statements like that when having the CLEAR CHOICE then I do not think that we are going to see any major shifts in how things work - if we ever will that is...)
I agree I had noticed their website and I thought also why should some money go to steam when I have no intention of using their service, wasted key, wasted funds. Also why cut out GOG when I probably wouldn't have heard of the game without the big Release on GOG anyway, that deserves a little bit of a cut at least.
Put my money where my mouth (fingers on keyboard) is, pre-ordered from GOG
Post edited April 01, 2012 by deonast
Not sure what the fuzz about Steam is. I really love them and would wish for more indie devolopers to work with them, because I rather enjoy paying up to twice the original price just because I happen to live in the wrong part of the world. Also, they have that really neat offline mode that lets me play the games I paid big money for about one out of five times on my offline gaming rig.

And now without all the sarcasm: Reading that even the GOG version of this game may come with a Steam code is exactly the reason I won't pre-order. Once it's released and people can tell me wether or not I will actually have to use Steam to play it, I'll probably get it - based on the answer, of course.

@FiatLux: Hey, at least now people can hate us both! ;)
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Nathraiben: Not sure what the fuzz about Steam is. I really love them and would wish for more indie devolopers to work with them, because I rather enjoy paying up to twice the original price just because I happen to live in the wrong part of the world. Also, they have that really neat offline mode that lets me play the games I paid big money for about one out of five times on my offline gaming rig.

And now without all the sarcasm: Reading that even the GOG version of this game may come with a Steam code is exactly the reason I won't pre-order. Once it's released and people can tell me wether or not I will actually have to use Steam to play it, I'll probably get it - based on the answer, of course.

@FiatLux: Hey, at least now people can hate us both! ;)
@ Nathraiben
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Following the forum question linked to below (and the response to it) then I think that one can assume that if one (in support of') buys the game at GOG.com it then ought to be DRM free.....
And last I heard that were the only kind of games (DRM free) that is sold at GOG at present - as I understand it then it has been one of two main concepts , the other one being that GOG have modified many games or game installers to make the games able to run on Windows 7 (the success of that I can not vote for as I doo not as yet run other than Windows XP... (but there ought to be a thread around here about that topic....)


http://www.grimrock.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2092#p2092

http://www.grimrock.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2532#p2532


Also : http://i44.tinypic.com/2dj5ocl.jpg
Post edited April 01, 2012 by FiatLux
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gyokzoli: I preordered it from the dev's page since I want Steam achievements, but I will also buy it here as soon as I have some extra money.
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ne_zavarj: Can you explain what's so special about Steam achievements ? Beside the size of the e-penis ?
Can you explain why after three years at GOG you still feel the need to ask this question?
I my self don't understand the point of achievements for games they seem illogical...
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Tiefood: I my self don't understand the point of achievements for games they seem illogical...
They are fun, can help seeing new games of playing it (in the case they are achievements that need special requirements) and add a new social metagame to the game.

Then again other times they are just lame. Still, having them is silly.