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SirPrimalform: snap
Ah, my bad! Was hoping that an alternative link would have been provided!

Anyway, good night!
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SirPrimalform: snap
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FraterPerdurabo: Ah, my bad! Was hoping that an alternative link would have been provided!

Anyway, good night!
Here's the update where they explained: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subgames/rob-swigarts-portal-1986-reborn/posts/223464

And yeah, it's bloody late. I should get to bed too!
(reposted from the crowdsourcing thread)

DRM-free* digital download: $15 <- if you like adventure games at all, pledge this
additional DRM-free* digital copy: +$15
Feelies: +$15 each (30, 45, 60, 75)
Boxed set: $100
Boxed set (best value): $150 <- if you want best price for a lot of goodies, pledge this (or higher)
(etc)

*or "your choice of distributor" - the DRM-free option is guaranteed, but if the game goes on e.g. Steam and you want that, you can choose a Steam key instead

This is Kickstarter, your card is charged only if/when the project succeeds (Saturday Jun 30, 11:00am SST).
Post edited May 10, 2012 by Starmaker
The gaming community has been bitching about big publisher like Activision and EA destroying gaming. Now we have truly "we dream again" project coming. Of course I will support that Kickstarter. Only 60$ for now, but the 100$ look tempting.

If this project won't get made, I never want to hear bitching about the state of gaming again!
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SimonG: If this project won't get made, I never want to hear bitching about the state of gaming again!
What if it turns out the game is simply not fun, and/or should have really have been released as a book or indie movie, not as a game?

I read the kickstarter page, and it is quite hard to tell how it will be different from the original Portal, other than that it will have vastly superior visuals and audio of course.

I guess I'll play a demo and then make up my mind if I want to buy it. I think every Molyneux game was also supposed to change the world as we know it. Yeah he made some good games too, but...
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timppu: What if it turns out the game is simply not fun, and/or should have really have been released as a book or indie movie, not as a game?

I read the kickstarter page, and it is quite hard to tell how it will be different from the original Portal, other than that it will have vastly superior visuals and audio of course.

I guess I'll play a demo and then make up my mind if I want to buy it. I think every Molyneux game was also supposed to change the world as we know it. Yeah he made some good games too, but...
At least they try for something different that the next COD, Angry Birds or WoW clone. Whenever people are bitchin' about those "mass appeal games", this is similar of what is often brought up.

Maybe it's just my german cheerfulness, but I have high hopes for the game (if it gets made).
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SimonG: At least they try for something different that the next COD, Angry Birds or WoW clone. Whenever people are bitchin' about those "mass appeal games", this is similar of what is often brought up.

Maybe it's just my german cheerfulness, but I have high hopes for the game (if it gets made).
Maybe I'm still trying to understand this whole kickstarter thing, because frankly I'm quite surprised how people are ready to shell out even as much as $100 or more for games that don't even exist yet. It is even worse than preordering. Yeah I know you don't get charged until certain point, but I'm unsure if you really know anything about the actual game at that point either.

But then, I rarely very strongly want a sequel or a remake for a great game, especially for ages old games. I feel each game is its own entity, and the sequels may just as well miss the mark completely what made the original so great. Hence, I rather wait for the game and then judge whether I'll possibly be interested in it, no matter if it is a (spiritual) successor to anything or not. The disappointment I had with e.g. Warcraft 3...

Portal1986 is especially problematic case because, frankly, the original wasn't really a game at all. A for an effort, anyway. I found it a very interesting and different experiment, but I'm not sure I really want more such games (but who knows, maybe the new Portal will be very great indeed). Maybe a similar case as with The Journey.

The Carmageddon kickstarter interests me a bit, but not enough to participate in it. Ie. if the game ever comes out, I'm sure to check it out, at least so that it isn't like Carmageddon 3: TDR2000 (or whatever it was called).
Post edited May 10, 2012 by timppu
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SimonG: At least they try for something different that the next COD, Angry Birds or WoW clone. Whenever people are bitchin' about those "mass appeal games", this is similar of what is often brought up.

Maybe it's just my german cheerfulness, but I have high hopes for the game (if it gets made).
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timppu: Maybe I'm still trying to understand this whole kickstarter thing, because frankly I'm quite surprised how people are ready to shell out even as much as $100 or more for games that don't even exist yet. It is even worse than preordering. Yeah I know you don't get charged until certain point, but I'm unsure if you really know anything about the actual game at that point either.
I had a discussion with keeveek about this recently, but I don't remember which thread it was in. So I'll cut it short here.

For me a Kickstarter is more than just a preorder. It is a way for me to actually help the game getting made. So far, I think, I've paid three time around 150$ because I really want to see those games made (well, the rewards weren't bad too ;-) ).

As you probably know by now, I don't really have a problem with piracy, I think end users should have free access to entertainment products and pay what they want. Therefore I'm paying more than I must (but not more than I want) so that the game will get made (and is then technically available for everyone).

It is also a leap of faith, of course, those games can be pretty shitty in the end. But I guess this is my way of gambling.

Probably hard to understand for many, but that's just how I'm trying to do my part.
New tier: $50 for the disc version (DVD case) + art print.
I'm actually happy they cancelled the previous kickstarter and started a new one, not because of the previous goal being too high (I've no idea if it would prove to be), but because now I can save that money this month and wait to pledge until I get paid near the end of the month.
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timppu: Maybe I'm still trying to understand this whole kickstarter thing, because frankly I'm quite surprised how people are ready to shell out even as much as $100 or more for games that don't even exist yet.
It's not about getting a game or goodies, it's about investing in a product you would like to see made. It's about taking the "money power" out of the hands of unimaginative publishers and putting in the hands of gamers and the devs they want to support. Think of it like investing in the stock market, except instead of getting a cut of the profits for your investment, you get a "cut" of the product itself.
Well, here's the new link: www.kickstarter.com/projects/subgames/rob-swigarts-portal-1986-reborn-v20

their new goal is $530,000. Still a bit high, but more realistic.
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gameon: I checked wikipedia about Rob Swigarts portal game, and then i saw he made a book. It also gave this link: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37197

Apparently the author authorised the e-book to be uploaded there "under the Creative Commons BY-NC-ND Unported liscense 3.0"
Thank you, but, WTF is .lrf? :p
Looks like a very interesting project, although I never know nothing about the original game... until now. The goal looks quite bit high but I hope players around the world would put their two cents... the concept its so promising and so different to what we usually accustomed to see that I think deserve our attention.
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gameon: I checked wikipedia about Rob Swigarts portal game, and then i saw he made a book. It also gave this link: http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37197

Apparently the author authorised the e-book to be uploaded there "under the Creative Commons BY-NC-ND Unported liscense 3.0"
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taczillabr: Thank you, but, WTF is .lrf? :p
You can open .lrf formats with Calibre and even convert them into other formats.