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Not that I'd oppose more options but... really... time to put on the daddy pants and get a credit card.
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ThermioN: This is by far the easiest way to buy stuff online IMO.
Seems to me the easiest way is through something most people already use in daily commerce (e.g. credit cards) rather than have to go through the process of registering/using yet another web service.
Post edited December 15, 2010 by Metro09
I disagree, they have covered the most basic international options.
They shouldn't bother with minority or regional options.
PayPal is available to just about everybody, you don't even need a credit card for it.
PayPal can be linked to a bank account and you can also use it a prepaid digital wallet.
Really, if you want to do business on a global level you can't expect everybody to bow to your needs and support every transaction system (of which there are dozens per country).
That's my opinion anyway.
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chupacabra: Dear GOG,

Please arrange for Payment option alternatives to the mono/duopolistic Paypal, Mastercard and Visa for us users. These companies are, as said, *polists and the internet yearns for more diversity. Especially as these companies have shown not to be afraid to use their massive influence at will and at random (see the recent shutdown of wikileaks).

Please reply with "agree" to support this petition!


The Holiday Sale is extremely tempting and we would hate to have to refrain from supporting your great company because of moral conflicts. Thanks for your great services and for listening to your users!

List of alternatives:
direct bank transfer (wiring) with a unique nr for easy processing
moneybookers.com (International)
paysafecard.com (International, prepaid)
I couldn't disagree more. Not that more options be made available but that the reason you want them. Wikileaks deserves to be shut down and I sincerely hope Julian Assange gets fried.
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chupacabra: direct bank transfer (wiring) with a unique nr for easy processing
Do you realize what is the cost of international money transfer? I've transferred $100 EUR from Poland to Belgium lately and payed over 10% fee. Mabye in your country it's cheaper, but I doubt it...
Well, the Humble Indie Bundle has Amazon Payments and Google Checkout listed as payment options. I don't know why those wouldn't be options for GOG too.
Doesn't help with the political protest, which is ultimately a business argument (if enough people have a political interest that will affect their business, it would be wise to alter GOG's business method to retain a large bay of customers), but doesn't Mastercard (and maybe even Visa) have prepaid cards that work like a check card, but you just put as much money into it as you want. No applying to a credit card, etc. Maybe those are older then I remember, but I thought they existed.

The problem with a political protest, is that you have to make sure enough people agree with you to make the change if you really want the change. Visa and Mastercard are international enough to cover everyone and their interests (aka...disagree). Paypal was a great idea, and still works for many, just too theify for me.
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chupacabra: direct bank transfer (wiring) with a unique nr for easy processing
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tburger: Do you realize what is the cost of international money transfer? I've transferred $100 EUR from Poland to Belgium lately and payed over 10% fee. Mabye in your country it's cheaper, but I doubt it...
With my bank, within Europe it's free of charge.
I send cash concealed in teddy bears to GoG HQ when buying all my games. No tax.
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Popinjay: I send cash concealed in teddy bears to GoG HQ when buying all my games. No tax.
Wait, you use teddy bears??? Maybe that's why I'm having so much difficulty? I use fluffy bunnies with big, green dollar signs on their stomachs, but not a single one has reached GOG.


-Khalaq
Post edited December 16, 2010 by Khalaq
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Popinjay: I send cash concealed in teddy bears to GoG HQ when buying all my games. No tax.
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Khalaq: Wait, you use teddy bears??? Maybe that's why I'm having so much difficulty? I use fluffy bunnies with big, green dollar signs on their stomachs, but not a single one has reached GOG.


-Khalaq
Maybe you need to sent teddy bears with Polish złoty signs on them.
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Lou: I couldn't disagree more. Not that more options be made available but that the reason you want them. Wikileaks deserves to be shut down and I sincerely hope Julian Assange gets fried.

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Ch. 7 : Helvetius : The Contradiction, p. 199
Sounds familiar? It's not so much about Wikileaks, as it is about the problems of monopolies and unfree markets. Sure, if you want Julian Assange in to face justice, be my guest to put him on a fair trial. But when you take extreme extrajudicial measures, you face the risk of being exposed as the monopolist you are.

I do not ask GOG to take a side in the issue US Government vs. Wikileaks, I ask them to promote a more open market. So in the future I won't have to bother you about my personal problems with Mastercard, but have the freedom to switch provider.
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chupacabra: With my bank, within Europe it's free of charge.
with international transfer there are 2 sides who charge: sender bank and receiver bank . Are you certain that on both sides it's free of charge? If yes - well lucky you... I hope to see similar terms in polish banks soon (maybe after we join Euroland) :-)
But with gog.com you would have to send money either to US or Poland - so I believe that such operation would cost you a lot (in comparison to payment amount).
Post edited December 16, 2010 by tburger
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chupacabra: With my bank, within Europe it's free of charge.
It's free for you, the one receiving the money also pays a fee. Also, most transactions can take up to two weeks and can be canceled at any time by either of the party without prior notice and the other one can't do anything about it without it involving more money.

As for the other options, have you looked at the seller account fees? Yeah, they're way higher than PayPal and less flexible on the back-end and with fewer guarantees.
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PWFredricksonIII: The problem with a political protest, is that you have to make sure enough people agree with you to make the change if you really want the change. Visa and Mastercard are international enough to cover everyone and their interests (aka...disagree).
Well put! That's exactly my point, if the business of international payments was a level playing field, I could choose now to use another provider. However, because of this triopoly, I can't. Kind of like having only Steam, so new games with DRM, when what you really want is these good oldies, without DRM.
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Smannesman: Really, if you want to do business on a global level you can't expect everybody to bow to your needs and support every transaction system (of which there are dozens per country).
That's my opinion anyway.
As stated before, I respect other's opinions :)
And besides, you are totally right, you shouldn't go out of your way to support every transaction system out there. But more than the current three are a need. Free market is never gonna happen if you don't support it.
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Navagon: Well, the Humble Indie Bundle has Amazon Payments and Google Checkout listed as payment options. I don't know why those wouldn't be options for GOG too.
Thanks for the suggestions!
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chupacabra: With my bank, within Europe it's free of charge.
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AndrewC: It's free for you, the one receiving the money also pays a fee. Also, most transactions can take up to two weeks and can be canceled at any time by either of the party without prior notice and the other one can't do anything about it without it involving more money.

As for the other options, have you looked at the seller account fees? Yeah, they're way higher than PayPal and less flexible on the back-end and with fewer guarantees.
Those are concerns indeed, thanks.
As far as I know, cancellation is also possible with Paypal. I guess there's always some sort of tradeoff between consumer protection and seller protection.
As for fees, I have little information about them, but if it means that I should pay more if I want to use non-standard options, that's fine with me. I'd happily support a freer market, just as I happily support DRM-free games and innovative businesses (like GOG).
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DelusionsBeta: Ultimately, I'd wager that 99% of all transactions on the Internet are covered by Paypal, Visa or Mastercard.
Exactly my point. So why do I have the feeling you disagree with me?
Post edited December 16, 2010 by chupacabra
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DelusionsBeta: Ultimately, I'd wager that 99% of all transactions on the Internet are covered by Paypal, Visa or Mastercard.
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chupacabra: Exactly my point. So why do I have the feeling you disagree with me?
Because if I were running a business, I'd be catering for said 99% and not bother adding something else every time someone wants to get up on their soapbox and mumble something about politics.