English story here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/24/america-pregnant-women-murder-charges

I believe this needs no further comments.

Criminal negligence, maybe. But flat out murder? What?

I don't know what is stupider, that they are charging her with this as an abortion issue, or the fact that people are more concerned with the abortion element to this than they are with the fact that this little girl was snorting coke at 15 and pregnant.

What the hell is this I don't even...

Yeah, I have never really gotten the Pro-Life thing. I understand the agenda, however I just don't understand how they arrive at it. I'd just like to see the Biblical passage that states that life begins at conception, rather than at birth. If there isn't one, and it remains a gray area, then shouldn't God, or perhaps Christ, be the one to judge/forgive?

I have nothing against Christianity or those that practice it. However, I do get annoyed at folks that believe it is their duty to force Christian morality/dogma on others. If folks are truly heathens, then God will sort it out at Judgement; the only duty of a Christian, in the end, is their own, personal relationship with God.

If they're really so pro-life they should start holding hands and blocking cemeteries instead of abortion clinics. Let's see how committed they are to their cause.

I'm pro-life, but not for "Christian" reasons. Though even if I don't agree with them, I support a woman's right to get an abortion.

I do, however, find it incredibly wrong, the women who use it as a form of birth control. Just "Oops, I didn't want a kid yet.".

I also have a massive problem with all the double standards in the law. But I won't start ranting about that.

Notice that this is from a foreign news source. A quick check of google news indicates this hasn't been picked up by many (if any) domestic outlets. Our media is more concerned about things like this.

Most Christians I know hold this view, as well. They don't like abortion, but they believe that each person should have the choice. It seems to be mainly a small, but vocal, percentage in the Church that believe this is a new crusade of sorts. At least that is my experience, and I live in the Deep South.

EDIT:
I got rid of my theological ramblings. I don't need to start that up.

I agree with you completely. Sometimes you just can't have a kid, be it for medical reasons, rape, or something along those lines. And if you intend to abort, do it as quickly as possible, when the "kid" is nothing more than a mesh of cells. But I'm against abortion being used as an effective birth control (if you really don't want a child, get sterilized), and also I'm against aborting in late pregnancy without a goddamn reason other than "I've changed my mind". That's not a reason, that's you fucking with our goodwill. Wait a month, give birth, then opt for adoption if you're really that scared.

Haha. Women know THOUSANDS of methods to terminate pregnacy, should we prosecute them all?

For example: falcon punch, jumping on guard rails, etc etc.

Lock them all in prison? Youll probably suffer lack of prisons soon. Who cares? Thousands of mothers drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes etc during pregnacy. I don't care unless it's my baby.

It sadly not hat simple. :(

At 18 my sister had a stillborn child due to anensephali (sp?), she didn't want kids in general, still does not want kids, and while anensephali is rare the chances of it happening again is very high. So she does -not- want to ever get pregnant again.

Now 29, the doctors will still not perform any kind of sterilization procedures on her because "she might change her mind." Apparently they'll let her make that decision for herself (.. isn't she a fucking adult already?!) at 30..

Yeah, tell women to sterilize themselves. Tell them how to born a baby.

Ah, concern, why always MEN have most to say about carrying a child?

I bet if man would have been pregnant, abortion would be totally free now.

This is revolting. Prosecuting her for murder because of miscarriage that she might have caused is very, very wrong. The girl is just 15, to my knowledge she isn't supposed to be able to consent to sexual activity yet by American standards, yet she is supposed to be fully aware of the consequences that taking drugs can have on a unborn baby. And to add even further to the injustice the drugs and miscarriage might not have anything to do with one another.

And the case with Amanda Kimbrough, a mother of three. They want to put her behind bars for 10 years, effectively taking the mother away from her three children for a very long time. What is this? Family values? For what? To further the idea that humans have human rights from the day of conception.

The religious right is a truly diabolical force, they don't mind to crucify youths and children in the name of "protecting the children".

If the American people don't stand up against these people you are looking at a theocracy next. You are looking at Iran, Saudi Arabia and the United States of America. If you don't go out and fight them in the newspapers, in congress, on the television, in your schools and at your local government you are going to find yourselves in a very different America.