Posted November 07, 2012
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SimonG
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WhiteElk
maker of tie-dye
Registered: Apr 2011
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
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And if I'm right, do people really think that's an improvement?
Me personally, i am big time in favor of more local controls. What we need seek want here on the wet side of the Cascade mountains is very different from what our friends on the dry east side need want wish. i'm for the feds doing federal management. With local gov handling local concerns. i am for No-one stepping in to press upon me their own ideals. If i hurt none, then none have business to hurt or impair my pursuits.
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CaptainGyro
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Registered: Aug 2009
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
Yeah it was low rated for a few minutes. Pretty ridiculous so I also rated it highly.
Post edited November 07, 2012 by CaptainGyro
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SimonG
SimonG597
Registered: Sep 2010
From Germany
Posted November 07, 2012
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It is anachronistic and cuts out many voters of the election. Leading to many problems. Not to mention the democratic issues. (A vote from somebody in Ohio being more important than the vote of somebody in Texas).
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WhiteElk
maker of tie-dye
Registered: Apr 2011
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
To the topic of Obramney. i see the two party party system as playing all sides against the middle. i come to see the two party system as a farce. And clearly this year proves beyond doubt that we are _currently_ limited to a two party farce. But still, even within this farce our votes are still critical. Our votes, beyond determining who sits in what seats, are also for checking the pulse of our country. Occupy uses "temperature checks" in its democratic assemblies to check how people are feeling about a topic. i see US elections as providing a temp check of sorts. When i voted this year, i was voting for what i did NOT want. Didn't find what i really wanted in gov representation. But i voted clear what i did NOT want!
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Krypsyn
The Anti-Hippie
Registered: Oct 2008
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
If it does, it will be in spite of Obama, not because of him. One of the largest single tax increase in U.S. history will occur at the end of this year if the Bush Tax Cuts are not reaffirmed (which Obama has said he will not do). The Federal Reserve here has pretty much been printing money to appease Wall Street and hold off the inevitable (the Fed calls it Quantitative Easing). Obama's policies, or lack thereof, have nearly doubled our national debt in the last 4 years (you can argue that some of this was Bush's doing, but the increase did occur under Obama's watch).
None of these things does a healthy economy make.
The only trouble is that I don't think Romney would have solved this problem either. He would have just pandered and appeased a different set of people. So, yeah... meh. :P
None of these things does a healthy economy make.
The only trouble is that I don't think Romney would have solved this problem either. He would have just pandered and appeased a different set of people. So, yeah... meh. :P
Post edited November 07, 2012 by Krypsyn
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Fomalhaut30
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Registered: Mar 2009
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
Really? If so, that shows some class. Not subjecting the country to a month or more of recounts and other wrangling.
Bow out gracefully and HOPEFULLY, this is the last we ever see of Mitt Romney. He's been told twice now that he isn't wanted. Hope he gets the message.
Ya, that's going to be...interesting...to say the least. But other thought....ROAD TRIP TO COLORADO! :D
Bow out gracefully and HOPEFULLY, this is the last we ever see of Mitt Romney. He's been told twice now that he isn't wanted. Hope he gets the message.
Ya, that's going to be...interesting...to say the least. But other thought....ROAD TRIP TO COLORADO! :D
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stoicsentry
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Posted November 07, 2012
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stoicsentry
GOG's Risus GM
Registered: Feb 2011
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
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Romney = Zombie
Kerry = Zombie
George W. Bush = Puppet/dummy (not dumby, dummy)
Obama = ???? not sure... something else that's bad, he's too animated to be a zombie but also we need to account for his evil-ness as well. lol
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Pompfinebara
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Registered: Aug 2011
From Austria
Posted November 07, 2012
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And the point you made is very interesting: Even though Austria is much smaller than a lot of American states, we still have nine counties/states/whatever you wanna call it in English (it's "Bundesland" in German) that have a lot of power in policies. Now, I would support a more centralized government, because I feel it would increase the political progress on a lot of issues, and you have to consider that Austria is a country with the population of NYC.
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I mean, there's a lot of stuff about the U.S. that understandably rubs people the wrong way. But what's the big deal with the electoral college?
Also, European democracy was always build on consensus and coalitions, so we just feel it's kinda wrong if a party holds absolute power.
The electorial system also doesn't allow for any opinions outside the political centre, which is also weird for many Europeans.
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WhiteElk
maker of tie-dye
Registered: Apr 2011
From United States
Posted November 07, 2012
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Post edited November 07, 2012 by WhiteElk