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Posted November 07, 2012
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StingingVelvet: Indeed.

It is both sides though, sadly. One of the first things said in my (very Liberal) overseas volunteer forum was "thank God a Mormon won't be President."
To be fair, there hasn't been a Republican presidential victory since social media became relevant, and I would probably expect the Republican candidate to win next time around given recent voting patterns, so it will be interesting to see how Democrats react to a Republican victory via social media.

You may be right - Democrats on Facebook will possibly be equally lacking in grace in defeat. Personally, I see anyone dragging race or religion into the matter as an asshole, which side they're on.
Post edited November 07, 2012 by jamyskis
Posted November 07, 2012
On Puerto Rico it ends up only 20% of the precincts reported yesterday for some reason, which might be why the media hasn't talked much about it yet. Of the votes so far though becoming a state leads by a wide gap of 65% to 30-something.

Here is a random story that popped up on google. Again, not a lot of attention yet.
Posted November 07, 2012
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Elmofongo: I did not vote for anything since I don't like my island, but......sigh.

To be fair to people here who wanted Puerto Rico to be independant, its own country including father, though he is not an extremist about it, wanted this island independent. But now they are probably upset, All that happaned to what they wanted to achieve were for nought.

Even this man must be rolling in his grave right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r672uJ7tiiY
What's on the news there? I'm desperate for more info on this.
Posted November 07, 2012
what's the deal with florida, already ?

yesterday i was "okay, i'll go sleep when i'll know the definitive results of florida". sounded like a good plan at the time, as it was one of the first states to start the counts.

i wake up half-zombified today, and florida is now the only state with still no definitive results.
Posted November 07, 2012
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Telika: what's the deal with florida, already ?

yesterday i was "okay, i'll go sleep when i'll know the definitive results of florida". sounded like a good plan at the time, as it was one of the first states to start the counts.

i wake up half-zombified today, and florida is now the only state with still no definitive results.
They stopped counting at like 1AM, there is still some left to report this morning. Looks like it will be Obama though.

No one is really pressuring them because Obama won anyway.
Posted November 07, 2012
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Elmofongo: I did not vote for anything since I don't like my island, but......sigh.

To be fair to people here who wanted Puerto Rico to be independant, its own country including father, though he is not an extremist about it, wanted this island independent. But now they are probably upset, All that happaned to what they wanted to achieve were for nought.

Even this man must be rolling in his grave right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r672uJ7tiiY
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StingingVelvet: What's on the news there? I'm desperate for more info on this.
I think its pretty much the same story here.
Posted November 07, 2012
What I enjoy is that we spent $6 billion on campaign advertising this election and nothing changed at any level of government. Money well spent.
Posted November 07, 2012
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kodeen: What I enjoy is that we spent $6 billion on campaign advertising this election and nothing changed at any level of government. Money well spent.
Yes, this made me giggle too.

$6 billions spent on choosing who will decide where to cut the next $6 billions.
Posted November 07, 2012
As controversial as it may sound, I do agree with Donald Trump on one thing: the United States is not a democracy. It's by and large a plutocracy, although I suspect that it is not plutocratic enough for Trump. As people have said here, political influence can be bought by financing campaigns, and major lobbying bodies such as the RIAA, MPAA, 'big oil' and the AHIP exert considerable influence over policymaking.

In fact, looking back over the history of the US, I don't think it ever has genuinely been a democracy. It was certainly even worse in the 1800s.
Posted November 07, 2012
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kodeen: What I enjoy is that we spent $6 billion on campaign advertising this election and nothing changed at any level of government. Money well spent.
Any source for that number? Preferably not the onion.
Posted November 07, 2012
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jamyskis: As controversial as it may sound, I do agree with Donald Trump on one thing: the United States is not a democracy. It's by and large a plutocracy, although I suspect that it is not plutocratic enough for Trump. As people have said here, political influence can be bought by financing campaigns, and major lobbying bodies such as the RIAA, MPAA, 'big oil' and the AHIP exert considerable influence over policymaking.

In fact, looking back over the history of the US, I don't think it ever has genuinely been a democracy. It was certainly even worse in the 1800s.
So the government are only doing their work for the highest bidder.
Posted November 07, 2012
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jamyskis: As controversial as it may sound, I do agree with Donald Trump on one thing: the United States is not a democracy. It's by and large a plutocracy, although I suspect that it is not plutocratic enough for Trump. As people have said here, political influence can be bought by financing campaigns, and major lobbying bodies such as the RIAA, MPAA, 'big oil' and the AHIP exert considerable influence over policymaking.

In fact, looking back over the history of the US, I don't think it ever has genuinely been a democracy. It was certainly even worse in the 1800s.
It's a Representative Republic, and those reps can be heavily influenced by money. This is nothing new. As said earlier by others though, grass-roots campaigns and well-meaning interest groups can influence as well, as does responsibility before a free media.

Straight democracies don't work, basing everything on majority rule. How long would civil rights have taken if it was straight majority rule?
Posted November 07, 2012
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jamyskis: As controversial as it may sound, I do agree with Donald Trump on one thing: the United States is not a democracy. It's by and large a plutocracy, although I suspect that it is not plutocratic enough for Trump. As people have said here, political influence can be bought by financing campaigns, and major lobbying bodies such as the RIAA, MPAA, 'big oil' and the AHIP exert considerable influence over policymaking.

In fact, looking back over the history of the US, I don't think it ever has genuinely been a democracy. It was certainly even worse in the 1800s.
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StingingVelvet: It's a Representative Republic, and those reps can be heavily influenced by money. This is nothing new. As said earlier by others though, grass-roots campaigns and well-meaning interest groups can influence as well, as does responsibility before a free media.

Straight democracies don't work, basing everything on majority rule. How long would civil rights have taken if it was straight majority rule?
Tyranny of the Majority dude.
Posted November 07, 2012
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jamyskis: As controversial as it may sound, I do agree with Donald Trump on one thing: the United States is not a democracy. It's by and large a plutocracy, although I suspect that it is not plutocratic enough for Trump. As people have said here, political influence can be bought by financing campaigns, and major lobbying bodies such as the RIAA, MPAA, 'big oil' and the AHIP exert considerable influence over policymaking.

In fact, looking back over the history of the US, I don't think it ever has genuinely been a democracy. It was certainly even worse in the 1800s.
That is also why the party with the most money won. oh wait. Well then ar least the canditate with the richest friends. oh wait...

honestly, Europeans have to get off their high horse. Especially considering the democratic deficit of the EU.
Posted November 07, 2012
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Elmofongo: Tyranny of the Majority dude.
Indeed.
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