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https://twitter.com/jeffgerstmann/status/336895843057664000

I think this pretty much sums up the conference.
LAWL NICE! :D

Seriously, this is the most.....retarded, is that okay?, thing I've seen in my 19 years of living. Really, it's like a casual HAL for my living room.
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Randalator: Yeah, isn't that awesome? Only with Steam you would at least be able to log into your account on someone else's console and play your game which is impossible on the Xbox Three without paying extra and thus even MORE AWESOME!!!
That is pure crap.
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Roman5: Officially confirmed: you can say goodbye to used games on the new Xbox

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

Sony has already won, it's all over
Well, Sony didn't clarified their policy for used games yet. Supposedly it will be left for the publishers to decide if their used games could be saleable or not, either way most of the companies would sell 'pre-owned free' software if given the opportunity.
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Roman5: Officially confirmed: you can say goodbye to used games on the new Xbox

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

Sony has already won, it's all over
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uxtull: Well, Sony didn't clarified their policy for used games yet. Supposedly it will be left for the publishers to decide if their used games could be saleable or not, either way most of the companies would sell 'pre-owned free' software if given the opportunity.
Uhm, I wonder how this affects the console version of CDProjekt's future games.
/confused about the raging related to 'used games'. A physical disc is just a distribution method, nothing more, why haven't people still realised this?
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Elenarie: That is pure crap.
I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that you like your sarcasm with extra sledgehammer...
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Randalator: ...
What you wrote is the usual FUD that follows events such as this one. You're able to use your account on up to 5 Xbox consoles ... thus you could easily log in into another console, mark it as your own, and not pay anything.
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uxtull: Weak. Sony was right to announce their new hardware earlier, MS failed to show anything substantially better. I couldn't care less about TV/multimedia services that will be unavailable to me anyway, same thing goes for the new Kinect and crappy games MS is cooking for it.
Same here. Once again Microsoft managed to make a underwhelming show. Sony's conference wasn't that impressive either, but it was definitely much better because it showed games, Microsoft didn't. Killzone Shadow Fall was far more impressive than anything Microsoft has shown for the Xbox One. COD Ghosts wasn't impressive either, but it isn't an exclusive game.

A new Halo TV show? Cool, but what about the games? People don't buy consoles to watch TV, you know.

Another thing that i don't like about the Xbox in general is how US-centric some of it's features are. Most things shown at the event won't even be available anywhere other than the US. I know that the US is the biggest market for the Xbox (while Sony usually has the edge in Europe), but c'mon, things like this certainly won't help them gain market in other countries.

What the fuck was the NFL thing? Who the fuck cares about NFL related stuff on a console? Wasn't it supposed to be about the games? Even if it was something related to soccer, which is the sport i like the most, i still wouldn't care about it.

So far i think Sony has done a better job. At least they seem to be focused on games, unlike Microsoft.
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Roman5: Officially confirmed: you can say goodbye to used games on the new Xbox

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/

Sony has already won, it's all over
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uxtull: Well, Sony didn't clarified their policy for used games yet. Supposedly it will be left for the publishers to decide if their used games could be saleable or not, either way most of the companies would sell 'pre-owned free' software if given the opportunity.
Sony's CEO already said that there will be no any feature in PS4 that would block used games and you will be free to buy and use them.
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Elenarie: /confused about the raging related to 'used games'. A physical disc is just a distribution method, nothing more, why haven't people still realised this?
With consoles the disc wasn't just the distribution method, the disc was the game. Now Xbox One does this:
"Individual games will be tied to Xbox Live accounts"
"On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,"
"Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc."
Steam has made a system similar to this the status quo for a while but console people are not used to this.
I hope people boycott the console over the preowned fee on physical copies, ridiculous.

Also: awful reveal event regardless of if you're a gamer or a dev. I mean possibly the worst I've ever seen.
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Goatbrush: I hope people boycott the console over the preowned fee on physical copies, ridiculous.

Also: awful reveal event regardless of if you're a gamer or a dev. I mean possibly the worst I've ever seen.
Well, people don't boycott Steam and their Steamworks, so I don't think that they will boycott Xbox either.
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Elenarie: /confused about the raging related to 'used games'. A physical disc is just a distribution method, nothing more, why haven't people still realised this?
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OmegaX: With consoles the disc wasn't just the distribution method, the disc was the game. Now Xbox One does this:
"Individual games will be tied to Xbox Live accounts"
"On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,"
"Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc."
Steam has made a system similar to this the status quo for a while but console people are not used to this.
-Good.
-Great, about time they put in this requirement. Loading big content from optical discs is a disaster in terms of performance.
-Similar to how Battle.net functions, WoW / D3 / SC2 can be installed from a single disc billion times, and would not function as long as the user has not bought / activated the game. The disc serves purely as a distribution channel.

I guess this is new to console owners, but bleh, nothing to cry about.
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Goatbrush: a dev.
Why? This has nothing to do with developers, just public reveal of the new console... Everything developers need and want will be offered during the several days lasting event next month, //build.
Post edited May 21, 2013 by Elenarie
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Goatbrush: I hope people boycott the console over the preowned fee on physical copies, ridiculous.

Also: awful reveal event regardless of if you're a gamer or a dev. I mean possibly the worst I've ever seen.
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Aver: Well, people don't boycott Steam and their Steamworks, so I don't think that they will boycott Xbox either.
The demographics for PC gamers and console gamers are fairly different. It's entirely possible that a giant fuss will be raised, but honestly I doubt any sort of boycott would actually work. The audiences are simply too large for anything but a near-universal boycott to be effective, and there's far too much diversity for that to happen. It might hurt their bottom line, though, and I'm sure Gamestop is pretty mad about all this.