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keeveek: *snip*
Yes, you are correct. The people in charge always know best. How about that SOPA and whatnot? :p

I'm not saying they should stop making Call of Duty and Game for Bros 5. I'm saying that instead of making a Pony Adventure For Girls or "oh god how did this game get funded", they'd make a game that's actually for women or at least made without forgetting 'em and is an actually serious game. Something like that happens every now and then, but as it is now, the statistics are self-perpetuating.

"If it was really that profitable, some big player would already claim that slice of a pie" sounds like something you could say about anything that hasn't happened yet. Don't people constantly ignore good deals because they have preconceptions (I have this notion that they do, but no proof)? Do you really think that taking women into consideration would lower the sales from gazillion to gorillion? How many sales would fantasy games lose if the women wore real armor in 'em, for starters? I can't bring myself to think it'd be a lot, but maybe I'm an optimist.

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keeveek: no, it's mostly pedophiles:
Oh...
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Starmaker: Ur stoopid. Godwin is for unwarranted comparisons involving Nazism, not for actual historical Nazis.
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jamotide: Ur much moore st0pider! There's no unwarranted or not actual nazis in that st000pid law. That y u r st0pid, you use the stupid law, you misinterpreted the law, and you even proved my own law,stupid!

Plus, you also invaded Poland!
HEY, I INVADED YOUR POLAND! (What I mean is, that was me who said that impolite thingy).
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Hesusio: Glad that's out of my system. But yeah, all of this sheer hatred is utterly ridiculous. People really need to calm their tits.
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jamotide: Yeah but without those people we would have never heard of her,she would not have gotten that much attention and money, and we would not have these funny threads. So I am glad they are very vocal in their outrage and hope they continue, its very funny to read.
It's amusing in small amounts, but it has long since past the point where I'm just ashamed to share a hobby with these insecure and irrational knob-ends.
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JMich: Quick question about this, how did they determine the gender of the users? Registration doesn't ask for it. Was there a survey sent out or something?
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Piranjade: Well, I can only speak for me and my female friends but we don't normally tell people we're playing with online that we're females. Not in FPS, not in MMOs.
I did it here on GOG in the Blood Bowl league but that's a big exceptions. I didn't make positive experiences when "revealing" my gender. Things either got awkward or bad.
I know that there are some female gamers out there who like to play the Girl" card hoping for special treatment but I would guess that the bigger chunk just plays as me and my friends do - not telling gender, just let people come to their own conclusions which is that you're male because you're a gamer and leave it at that.
(My friend Pogopuschel once had a real-life meeting with her German WOW clan. They were quite surprised to find out that all members except one were female. XD)
I really do find the toxic attitudes in Multiplayer games really sad. I tend to avoid them altogether and stick to single player. Sexist Harassment needs to stop but also Harassment in general. But it is true that women don't advertise their gender and sadly for good reason. Though most guys aren't bad, it's a few bad apples that spoil the bunch.
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HMDK: HEY, I INVADED YOUR POLAND! (What I mean is, that was me who said that impolite thingy).
Yeah I know, but you are from a country where I can't make some snippy comeback, so the other guy had to take it! I thought about writing something like "Hey look there HMDK, he invaded Poland,too", but it felt unnecessary.

Edit: Why can't we get along? Can't we just all invade Poland in peace, together?
Post edited May 29, 2013 by jamotide
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langurmonkey: I lack empathy for calling you a feminazi due your man hating words? OR do I lack empathy for explaining to people how things work under capitalism? OR do I lack empathy because I enjoy playing as a powerful male character because it is easier for my brain to accept this as reality? I also enjoy playing as straight male character because I'm straight and I'd much rather have a female lover in a fantasy than a male lover. I guess that means I lack empathy too.
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HMDK: Once again, point out how exactly I'm hating men? It's only the third time I'm asking, and since you're so convinced it oughta be easy. And I don't give much of a fuck about what kind of character you prefer to play in a game. But if you have some wild aversion to playing a woman, that might be slightly peculiar.
A post a few pages back was about feminists who hate men and had a link to some Youtube video with Anita saying she hates men. Then you mocked the person who posted this post in such a way, you expressed to the world, you hate men.

It's not a crime to want to be able to get as deeply into a game as possible and enjoy a game. In your mind, it seems the answer is YES.
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keeveek: I was playing with femShep.

For reasons.
What were you doing with your other hand?
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BlueMooner: You hear Rush Limbaugh in Denmark? I'm so sorry.
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HMDK: No, thank fuck. We have our own homegrown crazies. I've just been following the shitpiles of U.S. politics for half my lifetime.
Psst. Sorry to burst your bubble but you are one of the homegrown crazies you speak of.
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keeveek: *snip*
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Adzeth: Yes, you are correct. The people in charge always know best. How about that SOPA and whatnot? :p

I'm not saying they should stop making Call of Duty and Game for Bros 5. I'm saying that instead of making a Pony Adventure For Girls or "oh god how did this game get funded", they'd make a game that's actually for women or at least made without forgetting 'em and is an actually serious game. Something like that happens every now and then, but as it is now, the statistics are self-perpetuating.

"If it was really that profitable, some big player would already claim that slice of a pie" sounds like something you could say about anything that hasn't happened yet. Don't people constantly ignore good deals because they have preconceptions (I have this notion that they do, but no proof)? Do you really think that taking women into consideration would lower the sales from gazillion to gorillion? How many sales would fantasy games lose if the women wore real armor in 'em, for starters? I can't bring myself to think it'd be a lot, but maybe I'm an optimist.

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keeveek: no, it's mostly pedophiles:
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Adzeth: Oh...
We are not talking about people. We are not talking about governments, presidents, kings, politicians, emperors etc. We are talking about corporations with only one purpose. Making as much money as possible.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
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Adzeth: Yes, you are correct. The people in charge always know best. How about that SOPA and whatnot? :p
They do what is best for them. And SOPA was kinda part of it, too.
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HMDK: Once again, point out how exactly I'm hating men? It's only the third time I'm asking, and since you're so convinced it oughta be easy. And I don't give much of a fuck about what kind of character you prefer to play in a game. But if you have some wild aversion to playing a woman, that might be slightly peculiar.
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langurmonkey: A post a few pages back was about feminists who hate men and had a link to some Youtube video with Anita saying she hates men. Then you mocked the person who posted this post in such a way, you expressed to the world, you hate men.

It's not a crime to want to be able to get as deeply into a game as possible and enjoy a game. In your mind, it seems the answer is YES.
ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Seriously, now. We can't all be multilingual and shit, but do try to make an effort. My answer is... "yes"?!? To what question? Or am I getting you correctly, and you can only empathize with a game protagonist that is really close to your realworld self?
Game stories use cliches old as cavemen - more at 11!
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roninnogitsune: But it is true that women don't advertise their gender and sadly for good reason. Though most guys aren't bad, it's a few bad apples that spoil the bunch.
Depends on the game, I think. When I was playing Day of defeat on Polish server, I was the youngest guy there (I'm 24yo), and every women that very rarely visited the server was treated with respect.

And without patronising. The one girl I remember well was kicking asses in this game :D
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langurmonkey: A post a few pages back was about feminists who hate men and had a link to some Youtube video with Anita saying she hates men. Then you mocked the person who posted this post in such a way, you expressed to the world, you hate men.

It's not a crime to want to be able to get as deeply into a game as possible and enjoy a game. In your mind, it seems the answer is YES.
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HMDK: ENGLISH, MOTHERFUCKER! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

Seriously, now. We can't all be multilingual and shit, but do try to make an effort. My answer is... "yes"?!? To what question? Or am I getting you correctly, and you can only empathize with a game protagonist that is really close to your realworld self?
Stop trying to make this about empathy. Just because I can't 100% imagine what it is like to be someone else or don't want to 100% imagine what is is like to be someone else when my main goal is entertainment doesn't mean, I lack empathy. NOW FUCK OFF, YOU TWIT.
Post edited May 29, 2013 by langurmonkey
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Adzeth: Yes, you are correct. The people in charge always know best. How about that SOPA and whatnot? :p
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keeveek: They do what is best for them. And SOPA was kinda part of it, too.
Fair point. Only hope left for my dreams to come true is if the modern game companies crash and burn.
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keeveek: They do what is best for them. And SOPA was kinda part of it, too.
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Adzeth: Fair point. Only hope left for my dreams to come true is if the modern game companies crash and burn.
While "Where Is My Mind" plays in the background? :D