JMich: You sure about that? I recall seeing quite a few of "Why must I play as a ~30 year old white male character? Why can't I create my own character?" threads around, for quite a few of the games. Few games require the use of a specific character as the protagonist, and it's mostly those which use previously established characters (example, The Witcher). Why must the Desert Ranger be a male, why can't the new recruit in Alpha Protocol be a woman, why is the person sent in the middle of Dubai in Spec Ops: The Line a male? And more specifically, why are the defaults a ~30 something white male? Why not a latino, black, or asian? Why not a 23 year old, or a 45 year old? Does the story change if you change the character? Or is it that we assume "The 'hero' should be like this" and claim anything else as false subconciously?

stika: So what you're saying is that her products are not required to represent both genders equally?

Well what do you know, it sounds just like the games she's addressing

keeveek: Why should it? It's you who think this is an issue, so it's you who should do something about it.

It's like the bullshit I hear all the time "why does they talk about violence against women? Men are also subjected to violence in their lives!"

Every person is free to choose which issues he or she wants to fight with.

Just from the fact she promotes gender equality doesn't mean she should use 50% of her time and assets to talk about men issues.

You, on the other hand, are free to do so.

If anything, I hate people telling others what they should do with their own time and money the most.

HMDK: Fucking BINGO! All these privileged, easily bruised male egos always come out of the woodwork like worms when women speak out, demanding that men be the focus. To every feminist critique of anything, the loudest response is always: "BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ!?!?". It's fuckin' sickening.

stika: Irony much?

keeveek: The main difference being, she's a customer, she pays for games, so she has every right to make claims and demands.

keeveek: You do nothing, you just complain. You expect other people will fight for what you seem is right.

keeveek: Like HMDK said " What about menz!?!?!?!" is the stupidest argument around. If all that men writing such comments think it's an importan thing, they should maybe, just maybe, do something about it, instead of ordering feminists around.

keeveek: Take example from feminists and move your sorry ass. Do not tell what others should do and which issues they should address.

granny: Everything needs a starting point, and her thesis is as good a place as any. Over the two parts, it does cover how she presents herself, how she manipulates situations to her advantage, and other general inconsistencies in her views. Not wholly related to games, but given she has apparently become the face of feminist gaming, I think they are, at the very least, interesting to take note of.

stika: EDIT: And now that I think about it, you're complaining and telling ME what to do, oh the irony just keeps getting more and more delicious

amok: it is a college thesis, or UG thesis as we say here. They are heavily influenced by a supervisor and written to pass a module. It is written by a person still very much in the starting position when it comes to research, it is by its nature underdeveloped, immature and hastily written. Judging by her age, I would assume that she was what we would call a "young adult" when it was written, probably coming straight to college after school, so she would have very little experience by then. If this the kind of work you judge other by, then go ahead.... I will not.

keeveek: Your basic lacks of comprehension just annoy me, so sorry, I am done responding to you.

Keep crying in the corner about how men's life is hard and don't forget to write to all feminists in your country they should take care of your issues for you.

stika: So what you're saying is that her products are not required to represent both genders equally?

Well what do you know, it sounds just like the games she's addressing

langurmonkey: Everything she is talking about in PC and console games happens to male characters too. For example, in the game Mafia II, several times, you have to rescue helpless male characters. And if you believe there isn't 10000x more violence towards male characters in games, you haven't played a lot of games. So this is not a case of men not caring because it doesn't happen to them. This is a case of people except crazy feminists not caring.

htown1980: She also hasn't made a video game about black people, white people, asian people or indigenous Australians being misrepresented in games.

I think the point is, she doesn't think men are being misrepresented in games, that's why she is not making a video about it. If you think they are, make a video about it. If it was well done, I would watch it.

htown1980: She also hasn't made a video game about black people, white people, asian people or indigenous Australians being misrepresented in games.

I think the point is, she doesn't think men are being misrepresented in games, that's why she is not making a video about it. If you think they are, make a video about it. If it was well done, I would watch it.

keeveek: Yeah, it's like saying "you make a fundraiser for kids with leukemia? What about other cancers, you scum? What about them?! Why don't you raise money for other people too?! You motherfuckers !!!!"

makes absolutely zero sense whatsoever.