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Thank you GoG!
In 25 years of gaming this sits easily in my all-time top 10.
Peoples General too?
And maybe, Fantasy and Star Generals?
Thanks - just digging out my debit card...
Oh damn Ubi Soft, is that really necessary?
I would like to grab PG2 again, but not for this price. And I would like to buy R.U.S.E. but not with this DRM.
You see, others also make good games. And why should I buy your products when you don't care, while other publishers act more reasonable?
Hehe, when I think about it - Domenech and Ubi Soft have a lot in common. Must be a national character issue. :P
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borodude67: and Star Generals?
- just digging out my debit card...

Noooo! Star General was very bad, by far the worst of the General games. It should be given, not sold.
Now we need PG1 and Fantasy General!
Post edited June 23, 2010 by szabtom
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Silrog: I would like to grab PG2 again, but not for this price.

*sigh* Here we go again... First there are cries "Give us PG1-2 already" , then "$10 is too expensive", then if PG1 arrives with $6 pricetag it'll be "Cool, now I'll wait for a promo and then take it".
I wonder when people will realize that this kind of attitude is not helping in getting new titles on GOG...
Everything can be cheaper. But "old games are the best" and "I'm not going to pay decently for old games" does not rhyme. We are basically forcing publishers to offer newer titles, as higher pricetag on those are more easily justified.
Post edited June 23, 2010 by Elwin
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Silrog: I would like to grab PG2 again, but not for this price.
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Elwin: *sigh* Here we go again... First there are cries "Give us PG1-2 already" , then "$10 is too expensive", then if PG1 arrives with $6 pricetag it'll be "Cool, now I'll wait for a promo and then take it".
I wonder when people will realize that this kind of attitude is not helping in getting new titles on GOG...
Everything can be cheaper. But "old games are the best" and "I'm not going to pay decently for old games" does not rhyme. We are basically forcing publishers to offer newer titles, as higher pricetag on those are more easily justified.

Very kind of you to split my message. Others previously bemoaned just the price, I added further stuff. But alas, you need to pick mine but cut it. Genious move, really.
So about your specific problem: I already own PG2, I didn't request to get it again here and I think that Ubi Soft hurts itself, by demanding too much compared to the products of other publishers.
About your argument "they'd have to release newer titles to achieve the higher price" ... uh? They wouldn't sell their old games at all if not at GOG, so what is better - sell masses of them for $6, sparly for $10 or none because you only offer new titles, which we can get anywhere else too (and often cheaper than for $10)?
But it's great that only your opinion counts and that you settle the "decent price" we all must accept as such - so keep on sighing and cutting.
Post edited June 23, 2010 by Silrog
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Silrog: Very kind of you to split my message. Others previously bemoaned just the price, I added further stuff.

Sorry if it sounded like a personal attack; it certainly wasn't; I apologize for somewhat misdirected rant. It was that "common" point that I felt need to comment; the rest of your post ("Why support those who...") was pretty reasonable.
/about your specific problem: I already own PG2/
I apologize once again. It wasn't directed at you specifically. It was for the "I want it but won't pay that much" crowd.
/They wouldn't sell their old games at all if not at GOG/
And most of them actually don't. We have a miserable fraction of really old (pre-1997) games released on here. Reason? There are hardly any serious money in it, as the publishers see it now. We can only hope GOG can persuade them another way, but they need conclusive figures for that.
/what is better - sell masses of them for $6, sparly for $10 or none because you only offer new titles/
It differs. There are games, and then there are games. Wargames always were a rather "niche" product - see anything produced by Battlefront. $10 is not only cheap for this niche, it's practically a giveaway. Thus from a certain standpoint of view it makes sense not to offer PG at a lower price-point - if you don't believe that it will be bought by generic masses.Similar situation is with HOMM1 and MOO3 - only collectors and hardcore fans would ever want them, thus low price makes no sense.
/you settle the "decent price" we all must accept /
It's not that we "must" do something. We "can" do whatever we choose to. The only thing to remember is that there are always reasons and consequences, and that's what's often is forgotten.
Ok, let's just ckeck the niche market. It's true that it's rather small, but it also true that games improved a lot since the 90s. So I still have to weight those $10 against the new products from Matrix, AGEOD and others. Imho it's a bad decision to pick those games here for $10, when I can get so much more elsewhere. I would only buy it due the old times, not in the hope that it would be able to entertain me once again as it did in the 90s.
But this arguing was less about the war games market, than about Ubisoft in general. It's simply not logical to set each single game on the higher price, not regarding the product. And they are available cheaper elsewhere, Beyond Good & Evil for example at Steam for 6€.
And not to mention that each publisher should try to max his revenue. Perfect excample at GOG: Master of Orion 1+2.
Nice bundle, perfect price and since its release it always sells and sits at the top of the charts, just next to the actual sale titles. Similar to Fallout 1 and 2.
There are more than enough examples how a lower price leads to a higher profit (check Gamasutra, Gameindustry.biz and others) and this should be especially be kept in mind for old and very old games.
Much text, short summary: There are publisher with a more realistic approach and than there is Ubisoft. ;)
Like so many other have already said. This price is wrong. Never tried this game, and now I probably never will unless it gets some hefty price cut in a weekend promo.
Good to see that greed doesn't always pay.
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gammalost: Like so many other have already said. This price is wrong. Never tried this game, and now I probably never will unless it gets some hefty price cut in a weekend promo.
Good to see that greed doesn't always pay.

I do think that a lower price would be better for Ubisoft and better for us. But, do you think that Ubisoft is more greedy than we, the customers here? I don't.
Sorry I´ll pass, the 10 bucks price is a joke.
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gammalost: Like so many other have already said. This price is wrong. Never tried this game, and now I probably never will unless it gets some hefty price cut in a weekend promo.
Good to see that greed doesn't always pay.
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Sargon: I do think that a lower price would be better for Ubisoft and better for us. But, do you think that Ubisoft is more greedy than we, the customers here? I don't.

I think every person has a limit to how much he/she is willing to pay for a product. How much does a person who's never played this game want to spend? In most cases not $10.
So what's best? Sell lets say 100 copies at $10 or 400 copies at $6 ?
As for Ubisoft.. I think the company is somewhat customer unfriendly.
They are one of the major supporters of DRM that will actually punish paying customers.
Fortunately there are places like GOG who offer DRM-free games, and thus gets my money.
It's hard not to come across as a whiny brat when we complain about this. I really think it's great that GOG catalogue is growing and that they have secured what I believe is a legend of its genre. The thing is, the game is old. Ancient, in fact, since time flies a lot faster than elsewhere in this industry. Yes, PG2 is a niche game, but so are many others that have the lower price point -- I'm currently playing through Arcanum, for example, which really is a niche thing as well; far too hardcore RPG for most people. And it's $6 here. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think every single UBI release here is $10. Which, frankly, is just greedy.
Some six years ago, I would probably read a few raving reviews of PG2 and then download it on some semi-shady abandonware site to try it for myself. Now that we have GOG, I won't do that, but I also won't spend the asking price if I'm not quite sure it's a game for me (which I in fact have done here before -- bought Arx Fatalis on a whim only to find out it really isn't my cup of tea). Without GOG, the game wouldn't sell at all. With GOG, it may find new customers; not just those who played it way back and will buy another / their first legal copy. The chosen price point really discourages that.
In the end, though, it's all about the sale figures and only GOG and UBI have those. I do think they (UBI) are hurting themselves. But since they've gone completely bonkers lately, they probably don't care.
Well, the game is now currently #6 on weekly bestseller list, so obviously many people think the price is fair enough for them to buy the game.
Yeah, the price for this game isn't that bad. It's a great game, and definitely worth the money if you've never played it before and like the genre. And it's not as if wargames like this are usually cheap. Look at Matrix Games/Battlefront and their ghastly pricing policies, for instance.
I do agree they would probably have made more money by lowering the price, though. Or they could have added Panzer General 1 to the package, and added more value that way.
As for myself, I will probably buy when the price comes down, or when they have a good promo. I have played it before, but I'd like to play it again. I'm not in a hurry, though, and I'm beginning to feel optimistic (even somewhat confident) that we'll see more General-games here soon-ish. And they will no doubt be followed with a nice "complete the collection"-weekend promo. :-)