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Disconnected from the death wails of a dying empire, sure.
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anjohl: Disconnected from the death wails of a dying empire, sure.
You really over exaggerate my friend. Death Walls...Dying Empire Do you write for Hollywood or something. Your arguments are nothing more than personal, emotional, and exaggerated. You add words to my arguments that were never said. Totally "Disconnected".
Here is an example of how the Terrorists care for and use the the civilian populations in which they hide:

Egypt’s Prime Minister Hisham Kandil cried on Friday and kissed the dead child’s forehead, calling him a “martyr.” CNN called him “another victim of an [Israeli] airstrike.” Newspapers showed his photo as an example of the Palestinian civilians killed by Israel’s ongoing military campaign against militants in Gaza.

The only problem with that narrative is that 4-year-old Mahmoud Sadallah was killed by a Hamas rocket that fell short in Gaza instead of its intended target: Israel. According to an Israeli military statement Sunday, “Ninety-nine rockets fired from Gaza have crashed back into Gaza in the last four days. Hamas fires from civilian areas…and hits its own people.”
Post edited November 18, 2012 by Lou
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BadDecissions: Good lord.
As if there wasn't any evidence that shows the leaders are completely fucked in the head.

I'm sure the people are fed up with the war crap... but the leaders...
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Lou: Snip
Well, Hamas rockets have been known to be less technologically advanced then their israeli counterpart... so I doubt it to be intentional.
I wouldn't be surprised if their rockets were actually made of stone :-).
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Lou: Snip
Oh, so it's ok to invade other countries to get at terrorists as long as they are doing things we don't agree with?

Brother, you are an AMERICAN. Does the declaration of independance mean ANYTHING to you? You *DO* know that your country was founded by those who disagreed with being subjugated by the British monarchy, and that there was a war fought to protect that independance?

HOW can anyone from America support this Pax Americana incubated, packaged, and sold to a stupid populace by Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al? If you attack, steal territory from, or enslave the people of a sovereign country, you are breaking the Geneva conventions, and going against United Nation protocol.

It doesn't MATTER what the target is doing, unless their acts violate the above. Israel is attempting to expand their zionist farce under the guise of "defense", and you *really* think anyone without an agenda falls for it?

Give me a fucking break. Anyway, go back to your Nascar, shooting stuff, or whatever the fuck you idiots do for fun when you aren't messing the rest of the world up.
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Lou: Snip
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N0x0ss: Well, Hamas rockets have been known to be less technologically advanced then their israeli counterpart... so I doubt it to be intentional.
I wouldn't be surprised if their rockets were actually made of stone :-).
Well, you see, they dont have access to the more technologically advanced rockets, that Israel gets from America, thats why Israel can have more "surgical" strikes.
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EDIT : btw, their "surgical" strikes have killed approx 30 palestinians, as opposed to 3 israeli's by the hamas rockets.
Post edited November 19, 2012 by F1ach
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anjohl: Give me a fucking break. Anyway, go back to your Nascar, shooting stuff, or whatever the fuck you idiots do for fun when you aren't messing the rest of the world up.
When you write shit like this it's impossible to take you seriously.

For the hell of it though, there are certainly times a sovereign nation needs to be invaded and stopped. Germany in the 1940s is the easiest example. Bush and Powell presented the UN with information that Iraq was in a similar place and that information ended up being wrong. Blame who you like for that, bad analysts, bad spies, manipulative politicians, but the average American citizen is certainly not the one to point the finger at.

And yes, a government officially sanctioning and harboring a terrorist organization, as the Afghanistan government had before we invaded, is certainly in the wrong.

I'm almost as liberal as you'll find in the US but the idea of every country being free to do whatever they want is ridiculous, because a lot of times countries do evil shit that endangers others. Again, Germany in the 1940s is the easiest example.
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StingingVelvet: Snip
I'd be surprised if the "Average American Citizen" knew about the rest of the world.

Last time I checked, they were putting North Korea south of Egypt.
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StingingVelvet: Snip
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N0x0ss: I'd be surprised if the "Average American Citizen" knew about the rest of the world.

Last time I checked, they were putting North Korea south of Egypt.
The average American citizen is not as stupid as you think. Just like the average German, doesn't wear lederhosen 24/7. Just like the average British person doesn't dress like Doctor Who and drink tea everyday.
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Epitaph666: I say we nuke Hell so no demon or Satan can spread evil on this earth.

Simple.
Nukes can't do anything against beings that are not made of flesh, blood and bone. And why do you say such things if there is a 666 in your name?
Post edited November 19, 2012 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: Nukes can't do anything against beings that are not made of flesh, blood and bone.
Not really, they can mess quite effectively with electronics.
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langurmonkey: Nukes can't do anything against beings that are not made of flesh, blood and bone.
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JMich: Not really, they can mess quite effectively with electronics.
Are you saying, Lucifer and demons are really robots. :P
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langurmonkey: Nukes can't do anything against beings that are not made of flesh, blood and bone. And do you say such things if there is a 666 in your name?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse
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langurmonkey: Nukes can't do anything against beings that are not made of flesh, blood and bone. And do you say such things if there is a 666 in your name?
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amok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse
So you also think Lucifer is iPad? And his demons are iPhones?
that was a joke.

Why it was a joke? Because people are taking this matter very seriously. It is a very serious matter, but it's also pointless.

Calculating which generation will end the war (just because they've experienced war) cannot be vaild.
It may be the case with people like you and me, but once those people become the government, it's most likely that they'll seek to "expand".

PS
i might have a 666 on my username, but i'm not a Satanist. I actually wish there were demons and not just Satanists. HAIL DOOM and id Software! When is it coming to GOG?
ok bye now
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I won't say that this thread has been entirely civil--it hasn't, really--but it hasn't descended into brawling hatred and bile. So that's nice.

On the other hand, I'm seeing more attacks of a personal nature here; if you can't say something civil, it's probably best that you don't say anything at all. I don't really have time today to monitor the thread, but let's not force me to lock it, mkay?