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macuahuitlgog: "German language only available in Germany. German low violence version only available with German language."

I don't see how one can interpet these 2 sentences as
1. German Language is only available in Germany
2. Germany has the low violence version which is only available in German
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Orryyrro: No, 2. would be interpreted as "If you play the German version it will be the low violence version." Not that Germans can get only the low violence German version.
Correct. :) And it is not like Titan Quest Gold is banned in Germany. :P
Post edited February 21, 2011 by macuahuitlgog
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macuahuitlgog: Well if they find you to be a nuissance then it isnt worth it to do business with you from their point of view. And if I remember correctly, in the agreement between you and Steam, they say they can just ban you if they feel like it.
Just because they have that option it doesn't mean they should do it, it's bad business after all. In my experience Valve are so profitable they generally don't care what people say and complaints are usually filed in the recycle bin.
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macuahuitlgog: Well if they find you to be a nuissance then it isnt worth it to do business with you from their point of view. And if I remember correctly, in the agreement between you and Steam, they say they can just ban you if they feel like it.
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Delixe: Just because they have that option it doesn't mean they should do it, it's bad business after all. In my experience Valve are so profitable they generally don't care what people say and complaints are usually filed in the recycle bin.
Yeah, there are so many Steam fanboys in this world. And I agree with you that it is bad business.
Post edited February 21, 2011 by macuahuitlgog
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macuahuitlgog: And on my Steam store pages for those games, there is no "Full audio support may not be present for all languages. View the individual games for more details." written. Maybe because my Steam store pages are in English? I guess Steam didn't expect Germans to use their client in English...
It does say so on 'your page' as well. I *AM* using Steam with English settings, thank you very much. I took a little snapshot and highlighted the passage that you obviously missed.

I don't think that one could claim this as misleading or wrong advertisement at a court.
A warning that not all languages may be available is rather... clearly stating that not all languages may be available.
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You are correct about "Full audio support may not be present for all languages. View the individual games for more details." at the Titan Quest Gold store page. And in "Full audio support may not be present for all languages. View the individual games for more details." it says "View the individual games for more details". Clearly you missed that part. And If I view the individual games for more details. What do I find? Yeah, look at the screenshot. I think I could easily claim this as misleading or wrong advertisement at court. But of course, I doubt I can even go to court over such little money. And I wont go to court over such little money, it is not worth it. So presumptuous you are...
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Post edited February 21, 2011 by macuahuitlgog
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macuahuitlgog: What about ban first, ask questions later. :P I don't know if this is really true though but I hear Steam likes to ban people.
Thats microsoft (mainly Xbox Live)
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Delixe: Like I said I don't know anyone that has been banned by Steam for being a nuisance, but i'm not saying it hasn't happened.
I remember a post a few years back on their forum where someone was complaining about having their account disable because they were "obnoxious" towards the support staff. He was told he'd get his account back once he apologised to them.
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macuahuitlgog: (...) "View the individual games for more details". Clearly you missed that part.
Those that have the courtesy to read my postings find that I actually explicitly point out that very part, so I hardly missed it.

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macuahuitlgog: Yeah, look at the screenshot.
Most unfortunately, that screenshot politely cuts off the part that issues a warning about the German low violence version only featuring German language in a big orange box.

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macuahuitlgog: So presumptuous you are...
Well, thank you, I guess. Instead of throwing random insults back, I'll go and point out that I much appreciate the fact that Steam does take the extra step of providing a service to the dumb German customers with their weird laws (I think me being German grants me that little prejudice), unlike services such as Netflix, which I'd love to have. I'm actually grateful that they consider the German market share worth the effort to comply with the stupid German laws of having to sell an extra (low violence) version of the games, instead of just not selling a specific game at all.
"Those that have the courtesy to read my postings find that I actually explicitly point out that very part, so I hardly missed it. "
I read all your posts but after some time, it is hard to remember every word you wrote down. So I apologize for saying "Clearly you missed that part." because you did not miss that part, okay?

"Most unfortunately, that screenshot politely cuts off the part that issues a warning about the German low violence version only featuring German language in a big orange box."
Yes, the screenshot cuts off the part that shows the 2 sentences but there is no need to show them. They do not tell you in English, that you can only play the game in Deutsch. I only wanted to show you that English is clearly advertised. And I didn't feel like showing the world, the name of my Steam account, that is why I did not attach a pic showing everything . :) I'm not trying to trick people into thinking I am right and you are wrong. LOL
Post edited February 22, 2011 by macuahuitlgog
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macuahuitlgog: They do not tell you in English, that you can only play the game in Deutsch. I only wanted to show you that English is clearly advertised.
This is where the real guilty party comes into play, I fear. Given German jurisdiction, every such store must sell the low violence version exclusively when Germans are concerned. The fact that you can be gifted a different version on Steam is actually something that could get them into trouble, but I doubt that any real gamer would complain there and the people responsible for checking such restrictions likely do not come to the conclusion that this could be the case.
Given that knowledge, the fact that they advertise the Low violence version only obtaining German language is a clear statement.
I agree with you though that both the phrase 'German language only available in Germany.' and the lacking dynamic generation in the language field are unfortunate.
As I said in my very first posting, I'd always love to support a fellow GoG member, as I like this community, but your first posting and approach towards Steam really seemed like they contained no whatsoever form of warning, which is not the case (however wonky it may be). Have you considered explaining your version and concerns in a more reasonable way towards Steam, trying to cooperate to improve the communication of such restrictions? Maybe you could reach a kind person through a polite request where an upset message just gets you an automated reply.
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Creslyn: its just localisation stuff afaik. Normal disc version comes with all that, so any reason why it wouldn't be?

Edit: Ah, found the link I was after before. This thread is years old and the dl links don't work anymore, but it tells you exactly what you need
http://www.titanquest.net/tq-forum/threads/12943-Why-is-IT-not-multilingual

Seriously, you ever have issues with TQ, go to titanquest. net first

Edit: Edit: and just to save you having to read all that thread, relevant info:

Place Text_EN.arc into Program Files\THQ\Titan Quest\Text
Place Dialog.arc into Program Files\THQ\Titan Quest\Audio

Place ITText_EN.arc into Program Files\THQ\Titan Quest Immortal Throne\Resources and rename it Text_EN.arc, then place ITDialog.arc into Program Files\THQ\Titan Quest Immortal Throne\Resources\XPack and rename it Dialog.arc.
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Creslyn:
Is this legal? I don't want to get in trouble and get my Steam account disabled.
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Creslyn: its just localisation stuff afaik. Normal disc version comes with all that, so any reason why it wouldn't be?

Edit: Ah, found the link I was after before. This thread is years old and the dl links don't work anymore, but it tells you exactly what you need
http://www.titanquest.net/tq-forum/threads/12943-Why-is-IT-not-multilingual

Seriously, you ever have issues with TQ, go to titanquest. net first

Edit: Edit: and just to save you having to read all that thread, relevant info:
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macuahuitlgog: Is this legal? I don't want to get in trouble and get my Steam account disabled.
You can MOD TQ all over the place without issue on Steam.

I have heavily modded and tweaked my Steam version of TQ, no issues. (including several .ini file edits)
Post edited February 22, 2011 by AudioCG
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AudioCG: You can MOD TQ all over the place without issue on Steam.

I have heavily modded and tweaked my Steam version of TQ, no issues. (including several .ini file edits)
I`m pretty sure you can modify the heck out of any Steam game provided it`s not protected by VAC.
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AudioCG: You can MOD TQ all over the place without issue on Steam.

I have heavily modded and tweaked my Steam version of TQ, no issues. (including several .ini file edits)
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GoJays2025: I`m pretty sure you can modify the heck out of any Steam game provided it`s not protected by VAC.
Sort of. Some games will just fail to validate, and Steam will redownload and "fix any files you messed with.
I mean, is downloading and using the files I need to make the game English instead of German, legal? Because the files I need are from an English version of Titan Quest and Immortal Throne. It's not that much different from ilegally downloading a game. The only thing that makes it different is that I'm not downloading the full game, only a part of it. And maybe I'm breaking some kind of contract with THQ by changing my Titan Quest Gold to English?