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nijuu: They musta taken a very small sample. Most of my friends are females, and i only know like 2 out of all of them who play games...
Yet a large portion of the females I know play games. Not all of them play games on a daily or weekly basis, but most actually play games from time to time. If you were to include smartphone games (and I don't really see why not, many of the "simpler" smartphone games reminds me of the old arcade games in terms of complexity & approachability, and there are also plenty of more complex smartphone games), almost all of the females I know play games. Numbers are quite similar for the males that I know.
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langurmonkey: ... And if I'm wrong(anything is possible), then personally that sucks because that means less games that cater to me, a male. No, I do not believe a game can be very enjoyable unless it caters to me. Just like when I put on shoes, if they aren't designed for my feet, then they won't be very comfortable. ...
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Brasas: Langur, this argument / fear is not logical. A relative share (%) is not an absolute number (#).

The absolute numbers of games designed for males may go down or up regardless of share designed to cater female tastes. You assume it's a zero sum "market" in absolute terms but what we have experienced recently is huge explosion in number of games created.
Well it all depends on the tastes of the female games in the future. If their tastes become close to mine, then my fear is not illogical. Then there will be more profit in making the type of games I like, cater to both genders(which means it not really catering to anyone) instead of catering to males. It's impossible to please everyone to a point with one game where everyone will love it. That is fact. One of the games I love, Vampire - Bloodlines, obviously caters to males. If back then, 50% of PC RPG gamers were females, there is a good chance, a lot of things would of been changed in this game or cut out(to make it more female friendly). Then it wouldn't be as good in my eyes. Equality doesn't work when it comes to entertainment, sorry.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: Well it all depends on the tastes of the female games in the future. If their tastes become close to mine, then my fear is not illogical.
I'm pretty sure that as long as society keeps promoting and forcing the image of females as socialite butterflies, and actively denigrating anyone who is introverted and thoughtful, that female gamers will keep playing casual and social games and not desktop PC games.
Nothing suprising about the statistic, but I wonder what the breakdown of what they are playing would be?

If we take out the social stuff like WoW, Farmville, Sims and Wii Fit, how many are there left and what are more are they playing.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by DodoGeo
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langurmonkey: Well it all depends on the tastes of the female games in the future. If their tastes become close to mine, then my fear is not illogical.
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Crosmando: I'm pretty sure that as long as society keeps promoting and forcing the image of females as socialite butterflies, and actively denigrating anyone who is introverted and thoughtful, that female gamers will keep playing casual and social games and not desktop PC games.
Keep the feminist propaganda to yourself, please. It is extremely annoying. Society is promoting what most women want to be. There is a reason, you won't turn on 99% of women, by revealing to them, you are a gamer... Most women, do not find it attractive to be a gamer and most women do not find that lifestyle(sitting in front a computer for hours being anti social) appealing due to their nature. They'd much rather play a Facebook game while chatting with friends, or pay a game on their IPhone while riding a bus, on their way to some party. But this can always change due to a bunch of things I don't want to talk about.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
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langurmonkey: Keep the feminist propaganda to yourself, please. It is extremely annoying.
Lol wut, I'm not a feminist, not even close...
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Romanul: Sorry, I don't believe it.

"Female gamers are obviously a diverse group. Millions enjoy the shooters, strategy games and other titles favored by "hardcore" enthusiasts."

And pigs fly!
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Aver: I know a lot of female gamers. They mostly play RPG or MMO games, but for example my gf love to play also classic FPS like Blood, Shadow Warrior etc. and she is my coop partner in the most games.

Ratio of female gamers vs male gamers among my friends is not as good as 34% pointed in article, but I would say that it's something like 20%. But check The Witcher forum. There are plenty of female active users there, so ratio might be 34% or more.
It's good to hear that. I'm pleased to see more gamers(regardless of sex) interested in RPGs and Witcher is one of my favorites.

In RL where I live, there are no women (that I know of )interested in games. There's one I know that plays solitaire and another that used to play farmville but those don't count in my book.
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langurmonkey: Keep the feminist propaganda to yourself, please. It is extremely annoying.
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Crosmando: Lol wut, I'm not a feminist, not even close...
It just whenever I hear, society is doing this or that to women, I'm going to assume the person saying this is a crazy feminist who sees evil everywhere. Today, society is on their side. Do you blame me, considering the kind of threads that have been popping up here lately?
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey
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Crosmando: Lol wut, I'm not a feminist, not even close...
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langurmonkey: It just whenever I hear, society is doing this or that to women, I'm going to assume the person saying this is a crazy feminist who sees evil everywhere. Today, society is on their side.
+1!
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langurmonkey: It just whenever I hear, society is doing this or that to women, I'm going to assume the person saying this is a crazy feminist who sees evil everywhere. Today, society is on their side.
No, I just think that society is discriminative of people who are introverted, don't like socializing, and like spending their own time by themselves, with computer activities, reading etc. I was just pointing out that it's far easier to be like that as a guy, because there's an all-encompassing social image nowadays that females have to be loud-talking socialites with a bazillion friends on Facebook, for guys the discrimination for being introspective is still there, but less so than females.

I'm not sure were you got that feminist idea, I'm far for that, I was in a thread the other day where almost all of my posts got downrepped mercilessly for not being politically correct.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by Crosmando
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grimwerk: Paragraph 1:

A new report suggests adult women are nearly half of all video game players.
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grimwerk: Paragraph 2:

Adult women make up 31% of the game-playing population.
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grimwerk:
"45% of all game players, and 46% of the most frequent purchasers of games, are female. Adult women make up 31% of the game-playing population"

I'm guessing this means 14% all all "gamers" are women under 18, 31% adult women. They could have written this stuff a lot more clearly.

And I completely agree with StingingVelvet, these percentages are completely worthless to publishers if it doesn't divide the facebook "gamers" from the people who actually buy their newest releases.

And skimming through the thing it really seems it's just a load of shit written by someone who hasn't actually played anything, but thinks games just pander to males and discrimante females because that's the right thing to say right now.
Post edited August 11, 2013 by WBGhiro
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Romanul: "Female gamers are obviously a diverse group. Millions enjoy the shooters, strategy games and other titles favored by "hardcore" enthusiasts."
This has been my experience also. I've come across many female gamers and you can't make any generalizations there. They all like different things. Surprise surprise, women are individuals too.

I've been a gamer for 30 years and it never stops to amuse me when someone half my age tries to suggest I'm ruining "his" hobby by "intruding". Goddamn brats, I was playing Ultima Underworld when they were in diapers. How about these entitled kids get out ruining my hobby, and off my lawn, eh? :-P

I was in the minority when I was a kid/teen, but right now there's growing up a new generation which sees gaming as something for everybody. My 12-year-old niece plays a lot on her DS and Wii (a big Super Mario fan there) and from what she says about her friends, girls her age take playing games for granted. I don't think it's ever even occurred to her to think of it as a "boy thing".
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dirtyharry50: I didn't realize it was almost 50/50 at this point in gaming. I'm glad to see that.
Guys, I think you should be very afraid. It is a known fact that playing video games lowers one's interest to sex, at least in a relationship. Soon women don't want to have sex either?

If no one makes an initiative anymore, people will not reproduce, and in the future there will be less and less gamers. Which means the video game business will collapse once again.
Did the article mention what percentage of gamers are transsexuals? cross dressers? Licurg?
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langurmonkey: It just whenever I hear, society is doing this or that to women, I'm going to assume the person saying this is a crazy feminist who sees evil everywhere. Today, society is on their side.
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Crosmando: No, I just think that society is discriminative of people who are introverted, don't like socializing, and like spending their own time by themselves, with computer activities, reading etc. I was just pointing out that it's far easier to be like that as a guy, because there's an all-encompassing social image nowadays that females have to be loud-talking socialites with a bazillion friends on Facebook, for guys the discrimination for being introspective is still there, but less so than females.

I'm not sure were you got that feminist idea, I'm far for that, I was in a thread the other day where almost all of my posts got downrepped mercilessly for not being politically correct.
I agree that society looks down on(sometimes attacks)all introverted people who don't like socializing and like spending their own time by themselves. And yeah, it is more accepted to be a loner guy than a loner woman. But that is because of the nature of women. I believe, that women have a stronger need to socialize with other people compared to men. If you put a man and a woman in prison cells that force them to be alone for 24 hours everyday. I bet, the female will go insane, first. So when a women is living like a hermit, it is only natural to think, she has no choice and then people will look down on her even more than they look down on male hermits. A long time ago, women had to survive by not being ignored...by being well known by everyone so that they can find good men to protect them, hunt for them, build house for them etc. Back then, women weren't able to survive by themselves because of men limiting their freedom and their lack of upper body strength. Back then, a man could rise up with the sword, the axe and the spear. A woman could only rise up by being social...
Post edited August 11, 2013 by langurmonkey