Posted August 29, 2009
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Wishbone
Red herring
Registered: Oct 2008
From Denmark
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michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted August 29, 2009
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And because half of the idiots on Steam will be like "YOU NOOB! IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT! VALVE 4 LIEF AND GABE NEWELL IS GOD!"
Ah, that's right. So many games can definitely be found in places other than Steam... if you know where to look.
Post edited August 29, 2009 by michaelleung
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lowyhong
resident bff
Registered: Dec 2008
From Singapore
Posted August 29, 2009
I know. I bought it from Steam when it was at a discount price. Maybe I'll buy it again when it's out on CDs. But yeah, now that I own PvZ on Steam, I've got no choice but to carry on my reliance on Steam until there's a better alternative. Same with Zeno Clash...well, especially Zeno Clash actually. I love that game, but Steam's the only distribution platform available.
Reminds me of Starfarce, where back then it was either "buy the game or don't" if you had to avoid Starfarce. Ugh...once again Steam forces consumers back to where we started from, the only difference between Steam and Starfarce being that the latter is potentially more harmful to the individual user.
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Navagon
Easily Persuaded
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted August 29, 2009
They'd only do that in instances of fraud. So someone must have gifted you the bomb. Make your time.
You'll just have to hope they can see sense and just delete the offending items. But the law is no kinder to people who have received stolen goods than Steam is being to you. So I don't know what you can expect.
You'll just have to hope they can see sense and just delete the offending items. But the law is no kinder to people who have received stolen goods than Steam is being to you. So I don't know what you can expect.
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted August 29, 2009
There is always the possibility of a basic accident, they do happen
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bansama.com
Registered: Oct 2008
From Japan
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Navagon
Easily Persuaded
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted August 29, 2009
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Accounts can also be disabled if Valve feel they may fall under the control of a phisher. Right now the only thing Wec can do is contact support and then wait for them to respond.
True that. Although I suppose that's covered by "fraud". Which they say is the only reason they'd take such action. But like you say, all they can do is ask and wait.
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Weclock
The Creeper
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
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Aliasalpha
Once Proud
Registered: Dec 2008
From Australia
Posted August 29, 2009
Hmm might just check my steam, just in case...
EDIT: Yup its fine. Your user ID page thing doesn't make any mention of your account being inactive, does it usually say that users have been banned or anything?
EDIT: Yup its fine. Your user ID page thing doesn't make any mention of your account being inactive, does it usually say that users have been banned or anything?
Post edited August 29, 2009 by Aliasalpha
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michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted August 29, 2009
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Whiteblade999
Amn
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted August 29, 2009
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Reminds me of Starfarce, where back then it was either "buy the game or don't" if you had to avoid Starfarce. Ugh...once again Steam forces consumers back to where we started from, the only difference between Steam and Starfarce being that the latter is potentially more harmful to the individual user.
If you dislike steam enough you could just avoid it. Sure you have to choose but it sends a clear message on your feelings. Most games show up on D2D or impulse within a few months anyways.
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lowyhong
resident bff
Registered: Dec 2008
From Singapore
Posted August 29, 2009
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It wasn't that strong back then, but as time passed, I understood the reason for any outrage towards Steam. Oh well, I'm just twiddling thumbs and hoping more games get ported to Impulse.
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Romulus
Esoteric Order
Registered: Dec 2008
From United Kingdom
Posted August 29, 2009
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Maybe it's just some lame mistake on their part.
I found the topic you're talking about, its a little reassuring, but not exactly the same situation; he was accused of stealing credit card numbers.
From what I've read of the official line on things, if you're gifted a game from someone who bought it fraudulently, then that's the ticket to ban-ville.
Basically you're never meant to accept a game from an unknown user or anyone you don't trust. In fact, after reading Vavle's lengthy jargon on the matter it seems like they're saying any user takes a big risk accepting a gifted game from -anyone-.
For example, the most common seems to be sukkas who buy games on eBay and get the game gifted, or sent the CD key. Every instance of this I read on various forums are the ones which got hit with the banhammer.
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michaelleung
YOU ARE ALL RETARDS
Registered: Sep 2008
From Canada
Posted August 29, 2009
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Maybe it's just some lame mistake on their part.
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From what I've read of the official line on things, if you're gifted a game from someone who bought it fraudulently, then that's the ticket to ban-ville.
Basically you're never meant to accept a game from an unknown user or anyone you don't trust. In fact, after reading Vavle's lengthy jargon on the matter it seems like they're saying any user takes a big risk accepting a gifted game from -anyone-.
For example, the most common seems to be sukkas who buy games on eBay and get the game gifted, or sent the CD key. Every instance of this I read on various forums are the ones which got hit with the banhammer.
But here it says that if you're gifted a game purchased fradulently, the game itself will be revoked and Steam will let you buy the game to keep your progress in-game, obviously meaning that they wouldn't disable your account.
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Weclock
The Creeper
Registered: Sep 2008
From United States
Posted August 29, 2009