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Posted January 29, 2012
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u2jedi: I'll post it again, what part of the Third Amendment do you NOT get?

Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops.

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
What does any of this have to do with the Third Amendment. Take it from an actual lawyer, there isn't a single Third Amendment case in the history of U.S. jurisprudence. Why? Because it's so literal it doesn't come up... and I have no idea why you think it applies here.
Posted January 29, 2012
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u2jedi: Third Amendment – Protection from quartering of troops.

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
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doccarnby: Isn't that saying that private property can't be requisitioned by the military against the owners will? I'm not quite certain how that fits them doing drills in public space.

Edit: For the record, I do find this a little disturbing, and I'm not trying to say that they're right for doing this.
Basically it says congress is allowed to specify when they can take your shit, if congress hasn't specifically allowed the "taking" in question, then it's illegal.
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DarrkPhoenix: Having large exercises like this in urban areas isn't something that's particularly common here in the US (at least as far as I'm aware). To suddenly have a fair number of such exercises occurring just as there's increasing tension between citizen groups and the government... regardless of whether there's anything untoward behind the timing, the timing itself is pretty terrible and is going to put people even more on edge.
I don't think the tank driver was ever willing to roll over tank man (please tell me if you're out of high school you know who tank man is, i.e. everyone, not specifically Darkk). A lot of people believe the US military (on the whole) would also refuse to harm US civilians and others believe that some of those "in charge" would like to change that.

It's more likely that we're simply continuing on our long quest to convert local law enforcement into something paramilitary in nature.

Really, it's not a good situation regardless of which is correct.
Post edited January 29, 2012 by orcishgamer
Posted January 29, 2012
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doccarnby: Isn't that saying that private property can't be requisitioned by the military against the owners will? I'm not quite certain how that fits them doing drills in public space.

Edit: For the record, I do find this a little disturbing, and I'm not trying to say that they're right for doing this.
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orcishgamer: Basically it says congress is allowed to specify when they can take your shit, if congress hasn't specifically allowed the "taking" in question, then it's illegal.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up, but I'm still confused about what that has to do with this.
Posted January 29, 2012
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orcishgamer: Basically it says congress is allowed to specify when they can take your shit, if congress hasn't specifically allowed the "taking" in question, then it's illegal.
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doccarnby: Ok, thanks for clearing that up, but I'm still confused about what that has to do with this.
I'm not sure that it does. There's some claims that it does but I think it's probably a poor understanding of the law.
Posted January 29, 2012
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Posted January 30, 2012
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u2jedi: bump
I love how you bumped the thread but totally ignored the responses to your ludicrous Third Amendment arguments.

To everyone else speculating about the military conducting exercises in an urban area... it isn't as if the U.S. is currently deployed in two other countries where soldiers routinely face urban warfare environments... DERP! I might expect this kind of craziness of Bush were still in the White House but... what's the argument here... that Obama is part of the same cabal? Or maybe... yes... it must be... BOB PAGE INDUSTRIES!!!!

I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS!
Post edited January 30, 2012 by Metro09
Posted January 30, 2012
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Blame GOG for your posts showing up after the bump. I bumped 1st.

And whooptee doo you're a lawyer. So what? Lawyers are scum.
Post edited January 30, 2012 by u2jedi
Posted January 30, 2012
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u2jedi: Blame GOG for your posts showing up after the bump. I bumped 1st.

And whooptee doo you're a lawyer. So what? Lawyers are scum.
Wait, who's a lawyer? And who else was bumping it before you?
Posted January 30, 2012
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u2jedi: bump
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Metro09: I love how you bumped the thread but totally ignored the responses to your ludicrous Third Amendment arguments.

To everyone else speculating about the military conducting exercises in an urban area... it isn't as if the U.S. is currently deployed in two other countries where soldiers routinely face urban warfare environments... DERP! I might expect this kind of craziness of Bush were still in the White House but... what's the argument here... that Obama is part of the same cabal? Or maybe... yes... it must be... BOB PAGE INDUSTRIES!!!!

I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS!
Obama is a socialist, unamerican muslim that wants to teach gay sex in schools. WHO KNOWS WHAT HE IS UP TO?!?!
Posted January 30, 2012
Prepare for second civil war.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
Posted January 30, 2012
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sajin: Prepare for second civil war.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
what a post! an article from 2008 (!!!) predicting an event in 2010 that hasn't happened in 2011 and now it's 2012.

i can only hope you guys are well-stocked in tinfoil. my brain hurts just from reading some of these posts here...
Posted January 30, 2012
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u2jedi: Blame GOG for your posts showing up after the bump. I bumped 1st.

And whooptee doo you're a lawyer. So what? Lawyers are scum.
Actually my post refuting your moronic 3rd Amendment non sequitur was a full two hours before your bump. You just ignored it because you know you're spouting nonsense for lulz. Let's review, though, shall we? So far you've mentioned three totally unrelated things: troop exercises in LA, arrests corresponding to an 'Occupy' movement in Oakland (which mirrors the other dozen or so incidents throughout the country), and the 3rd Amendment.

Summary: What we have here is some bored early twenty-something conspiracy theorist babbling about random things to sound interesting. Nevertheless I await with baited breath for the Illuminati reference.
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Metro09: I love how you bumped the thread but totally ignored the responses to your ludicrous Third Amendment arguments.

To everyone else speculating about the military conducting exercises in an urban area... it isn't as if the U.S. is currently deployed in two other countries where soldiers routinely face urban warfare environments... DERP! I might expect this kind of craziness of Bush were still in the White House but... what's the argument here... that Obama is part of the same cabal? Or maybe... yes... it must be... BOB PAGE INDUSTRIES!!!!

I NEVER ASKED FOR THIS!
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SimonG: Obama is a socialist, unamerican muslim that wants to teach gay sex in schools. WHO KNOWS WHAT HE IS UP TO?!?!
THE MACHINES GAVE ME LEMON-LIME AND I WANTED ORANGE!!! It's a conspiracy by the maintenance man!!!
Post edited January 30, 2012 by Metro09
Posted January 30, 2012
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Metro09: THE MACHINES GAVE ME LEMON-LIME AND I WANTED ORANGE!!! It's a conspiracy by the maintenance man!!!
Oh, you're the lawyer! Somehow I missed that part of your post. It makes sense now! Sort of.
Posted January 30, 2012
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sajin: Prepare for second civil war.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
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Fred_DM: what a post! an article from 2008 (!!!) predicting an event in 2010 that hasn't happened in 2011 and now it's 2012.

i can only hope you guys are well-stocked in tinfoil. my brain hurts just from reading some of these posts here...
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Posted January 30, 2012
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orcishgamer: A lot of people believe the US military (on the whole) would also refuse to harm US civilians and others believe that some of those "in charge" would like to change that.
Unfortunately, History tells us another story, isn't it ?

In summer 1932, in the midst of an economic depression, 40.000 something people marched on Washington. The issue was the "early" payment of war compensations ( decided in 1924, due 1945) to WW1 veterans. Hoover ordered their camp to be removed, McArthur sent in tanks and infantry. Chemicl agents were used.
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