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Crosmando: Some very naive and silly people in this thread.

- If Garriot really cared about video games and RPG's, imagine what he could of done with the 30 million dollars he paid to get a single trip into SPACE. The idea that anyone would give this guy money when he virtually bankrupted himself doing that is lunacy.

- Garriot's studio is built around social games, Facebook games and mobile platforms, so whatever this is - it will be most likely a social game, probably multiplayer too.

The guy has a great history of programming and designing some great RPG's, but the guy obviously hasn't been in touch with reality for the last 15 years. You would think people would have written him off as a lost cause after the abomination that was Ultima IX.

Not to mention that it was Garriot who sold Origin Systems to EA...
The EA blame game is getting pretty old now...
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Fever_Discordia: Akalabeth: World of Doom part II!
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Elmofongo: Wonder why Akalbeth is not GOG?
Garriot owns it, EA does not. Likely they could not reach an agreement, and there's very little chance there'd be a clamour to buy that game for $5.99...

(I'd do it.)
Post edited March 03, 2013 by Blackdrazon
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Crosmando: Some very naive and silly people in this thread.

- If Garriot really cared about video games and RPG's, imagine what he could of done with the 30 million dollars he paid to get a single trip into SPACE. The idea that anyone would give this guy money when he virtually bankrupted himself doing that is lunacy.

- Garriot's studio is built around social games, Facebook games and mobile platforms, so whatever this is - it will be most likely a social game, probably multiplayer too.

The guy has a great history of programming and designing some great RPG's, but the guy obviously hasn't been in touch with reality for the last 15 years. You would think people would have written him off as a lost cause after the abomination that was Ultima IX.

Not to mention that it was Garriot who sold Origin Systems to EA...
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McDon: The EA blame game is getting pretty old now...
What are you talking about? I was simply stating that Garriot made a fortune selling his own company (and its employees) to EA, who ended up closing down Origin and firing its employees. Not to mention throwing all that money away not making RPG's but on stupidly eccentric crap like paying millions to go into space, among other things.

It is plainly self-evident that anyone who gives their own money to a man who lost touch with his sanity years ago deserves to lose that money.
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Crosmando: Some very naive and silly people in this thread.

- If Garriot really cared about video games and RPG's, imagine what he could of done with the 30 million dollars he paid to get a single trip into SPACE. The idea that anyone would give this guy money when he virtually bankrupted himself doing that is lunacy.
yeah, cuz cock sucking to gamers is -FAR- more important to him than following a life long dream of stepping into the same shoes and going into space like his ASTRONAUT father.

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Crosmando: - Garriot's studio is built around social games, Facebook games and mobile platforms, so whatever this is - it will be most likely a social game, probably multiplayer too.
no fucking shit?!?!?! you mean that facebook / social games are the whole purpose of this studio?!?!?!

nahhhhhhhhhhh, your just fucking with us.

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Crosmando: The guy has a great history of programming and designing some great RPG's, but the guy obviously hasn't been in touch with reality for the last 15 years. You would think people would have written him off as a lost cause after the abomination that was Ultima IX.
He hasn't programed shit since 1985, nearly 30 god damned years .... also: Ultima IX was a pretty good game once you got past the fact that it probably shouldn't have been shoe horned in as a numerical Ultima game.

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Crosmando: Not to mention that it was Garriot who sold Origin Systems to EA...
yeah, and Chris shouldn't have sold Gas Powered Games: shit gets fucked when you roll as a high profile independent studio who is supposed to crap out diamonds with development costs that far out reach what is sustainable ..... then the market takes a dump and your standing there with your dick in your hand trying to figure out how your employees are gonna put food on the table when you can't pay them.
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McDon: The EA blame game is getting pretty old now...
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Crosmando: What are you talking about? I was simply stating that Garriot made a fortune selling his own company (and its employees) to EA, who ended up closing down Origin and firing its employees. Not to mention throwing all that money away not making RPG's but on stupidly eccentric crap like paying millions to go into space, among other things.

It is plainly self-evident that anyone who gives their own money to a man who lost touch with his sanity years ago deserves to lose that money.
He's insane to go into space? I mean c'mon anyone with even money would love to go into space, it's pretty much a lifelong dream.
Post edited March 03, 2013 by McDon
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McDon: The EA blame game is getting pretty old now...
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Crosmando: What are you talking about? I was simply stating that Garriot made a fortune selling his own company (and its employees) to EA, who ended up closing down Origin and firing its employees. Not to mention throwing all that money away not making RPG's but on stupidly eccentric crap like paying millions to go into space, among other things.
no he didn't; Origin was broke when he sold to EA, and when he finally did leave it was with next to nothing and he had to go crawling to NC Soft (an absolute nobody at the time) who only hired him as a feather in their cap since UO is to the Korean MMO market what Doom is to FPS.

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Crosmando: It is plainly self-evident that anyone who gives their own money to a man who lost touch with his sanity years ago deserves to lose that money.
eat a dick and crawl back into your mom's basement.
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Crosmando: Some very naive and silly people in this thread.

- If Garriot really cared about video games and RPG's, imagine what he could of done with the 30 million dollars he paid to get a single trip into SPACE. The idea that anyone would give this guy money when he virtually bankrupted himself doing that is lunacy.
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Sogi-Ya: yeah, cuz cock sucking to gamers is -FAR- more important to him than following a life long dream of stepping into the same shoes and going into space like his ASTRONAUT father.
Nothing but ego. It's fundamentally dishonest to ask for money from a Kickstarter for a video game when you could have funded that game yourself many times over.

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Crosmando: What are you talking about? I was simply stating that Garriot made a fortune selling his own company (and its employees) to EA, who ended up closing down Origin and firing its employees. Not to mention throwing all that money away not making RPG's but on stupidly eccentric crap like paying millions to go into space, among other things.
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Sogi-Ya: no he didn't; Origin was broke when he sold to EA, and when he finally did leave it was with next to nothing and he had to go crawling to NC Soft (an absolute nobody at the time) who only hired him as a feather in their cap since UO is to the Korean MMO market what Doom is to FPS.

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Crosmando: It is plainly self-evident that anyone who gives their own money to a man who lost touch with his sanity years ago deserves to lose that money.
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Sogi-Ya: eat a dick and crawl back into your mom's basement.
Do you mind the language? It's vulgar, childish and disgusting.

no he didn't; Origin was broke when he sold to EA, and when he finally did leave it was with next to nothing and he had to go crawling to NC Soft (an absolute nobody at the time) who only hired him as a feather in their cap since UO is to the Korean MMO market what Doom is to FPS.
Lies, he was able to pay 30 million dollars to go into space, obviously not broke in the slightest.
Post edited March 03, 2013 by Crosmando
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Crosmando: What are you talking about? I was simply stating that Garriot made a fortune selling his own company (and its employees) to EA, who ended up closing down Origin and firing its employees. Not to mention throwing all that money away not making RPG's but on stupidly eccentric crap like paying millions to go into space, among other things.

It is plainly self-evident that anyone who gives their own money to a man who lost touch with his sanity years ago deserves to lose that money.
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McDon: He's insane to go into space? I mean c'mon anyone with even money would love to go into space, it's pretty much a lifelong dream.
If he really cared about RPG's, and they were his passion, he would have used every cent of that money to pursue that. It's fundamentally dishonest to now go back crawling to fans for money to make an RPG now that Kickstarters like WL2 and Project Eternity won big. When he could of used his own millions to make RPG's. The man only cares about money and his own greed. Not to mention holding awful opinions like mobile and Facebook gaming to be the future.

Compare that with say Brian Fargo, who after he left Interplay went round pitching Wasteland 2 to every publisher he could find, who told him no because it was turn-based and party-based, and only managed to do it because Kickstarter appeared. Just because he wanted to make a sequel to a game he loved making.

Garriot is a has-been and a nobody these days, and his social gaming crap will fail hard because no one is going to back a social game on Kickstarter.
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mondo84: Side note - anybody remember the huge deal it was when someone killed Richard Garriott in Ultima Online?

http://lorehound.com/news/top-5-most-memorable-events-in-mmorpg-history/
I remember, I also remember that player was perma-banned for cheating. With tons of F2Play MMO's on the horizon, I see him working again to somehow revamp Ultima Online. This of course is just total speculation on my part. What I would love to see is one more Ultima game to makeup for U9.
Post edited March 03, 2013 by oldschool
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mondo84: Side note - anybody remember the huge deal it was when someone killed Richard Garriott in Ultima Online?

http://lorehound.com/news/top-5-most-memorable-events-in-mmorpg-history/
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oldschool: I remember, I also remember that player was perma-banned for cheating. With tons of F2Play MMO's on the horizon, I see him working again to somehow revamp Ultima Online. This of course is just total speculation on my part. What I would love to see is one more Ultima game to makeup for U9.
EA owns everything related to Ultima except for the "Lord British" trademark. So unless it was published by EA, not possible.
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mondo84: Side note - anybody remember the huge deal it was when someone killed Richard Garriott in Ultima Online?

http://lorehound.com/news/top-5-most-memorable-events-in-mmorpg-history/
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oldschool: I remember, I also remember that player was perma-banned for cheating. With tons of F2Play MMO's on the horizon, I see him working again to somehow revamp Ultima Online. This of course is just total speculation on my part. What I would love to see is one more Ultima game to makeup for U9.
It said in the link actually :P You need to eat more carrots :)
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Elmofongo: Whatever it is in 6 days:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.402372-Lord-British-Presents-A-Countdown

....A new Ultima game from Richard himself?
Thanks for the heads up. I'm interested.
more then likely it is going to be his "New Britannia"
http://www.vg247.com/2012/07/11/new-britannia-is-lord-britishs-mobile-rpg/
Unfortunately there is no room for complex RPG's like Ultima in today's world. People would be scratching their head all over and complain about the difficulty. Gamers have gotten way too soft, which is a shame, because there's NOTHING like really immersing yourself in something in order to beat it. I don't need to immerse myself in Dragon Age in order to beat it. In games like Ultima you absolutely NEED to read everything you come across and think for yourself. Nowadays, games do that for you with journals and map markers. (does not make them bad games though, just kills the immersion, just like fast travel. I finally played Oblivion without fast travel sometime ago and it was like an all new game.) The most recent RPG that truly immersed me was Morrowind.

Edit: In my opinion, a 3D Ultima should be played in First Person with minimal HUD features.
Post edited March 03, 2013 by mrmarioanonym
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mrmarioanonym: Unfortunately there is no room for complex RPG's like Ultima in today's world. People would be scratching their head all over and complain about the difficulty. Gamers have gotten way too soft, which is a shame, because there's NOTHING like really immersing yourself in something in order to beat it. I don't need to immerse myself in Dragon Age in order to beat it. In games like Ultima you absolutely NEED to read everything you come across and think for yourself. Nowadays, games do that for you with journals and map markers. (does not make them bad games though, just kills the immersion, just like fast travel. I finally played Oblivion without fast travel sometime ago and it was like an all new game.) The most recent RPG that truly immersed me was Morrowind.

Edit: In my opinion, a 3D Ultima should be played in First Person with minimal HUD features.
Can you at least keep the map?