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Posted November 27, 2011
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kavazovangel: Download through Steam. Copy the files somewhere in like C:\Games\VtMB\ for example. Delete the game through Steam as you won't be needing it there anymore. Replace the exe with a cracked 1.2 version one. Enjoy a Steam-less, perfectly working release. ;)

No need for admin rights or whatever.
I think the latest unofficial patch removes the disc check? Not sure, I my steam version with mods and unofficial patch and it is still in the steam folder. And under Windows 7

Honestly, I have less problems with Windows 7 than with XP. And maybe I'm just more lucky now, but I have the feeling that the compatibility of Win 95, Win 98 era games is better than under XP.

But to me it looks like the OP didn't want an honest opinion, but have his preconceptions confirmed ....
Posted November 27, 2011
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carnival73: .NET was an aggravation back when I first started fixing up this old PC because it was overrun with malware and I was running around tracing and pulling proceesses so all the while I'm trying to bat down unwanted connections I was constantly tripping over .NET tricks and gags. Now that my PC is pretty clean .NET doesn't get in my way.
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kavazovangel: /facepalm again. Do you know what .NET is?
With a bit of investigation I figured it out - I also know that it seems to feel that it has the right to tell me that I did something it didn't like and that I've got ten seconds before it shuts down and reboots my PC.
Posted November 27, 2011
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Crassmaster: I think it's pretty clear that he doesn't.
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kavazovangel: And just to 'scare' him a little more, Windows Vista comes with .NET 3.0, Windows 7 comes with .NET 3.5, and Windows 8 will come with .NET 4.5.

By the way, dunno what GOG uses, but the whole service could very well be based on .NET. :p

.NET is hunting you!
In the big scheme of things, rather what I do or don't, is or isn't being monitored, I really don't give a shit - the only time I'm arsed is when software impedes what I'm attempting to do with my PC.

Either way .NET is taking this waaay off topic.
Post edited November 27, 2011 by carnival73
Posted November 28, 2011
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carnival73: With a bit of investigation I figured it out - I also know that it seems to feel that it has the right to tell me that I did something it didn't like and that I've got ten seconds before it shuts down and reboots my PC.
Whoah, where exactly does this come from? I have never encountered this, and even if this was happening (and it wasn't something like Blaster doing it), a "shutdown -a" would abort any forced shutdowns. Can you give us the source of the ".NET is shutting down the computer" thingy?
Posted November 28, 2011
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Crassmaster: There are very few games that flat out refuse to run in a Win 7 environment.
I think there are quite a few older Win9x era games with 16-bit installers which will refuse to install, but I think that is more an issue with 64bit vs 32bit, than Win7 vs XP.

But there are workarounds for many of them (either third party, user made, installers, or manual install), and if the old games are mainly from GOG like the OP said, this is taken care of by the GOG team.
Posted November 28, 2011
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework

Enjoy, dunno what else to say anymore. :D
Posted November 28, 2011
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kavazovangel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework

Enjoy, dunno what else to say anymore. :D
No,no,no Wikiepadia is obviously controlled by M$! It's all lies!
Posted November 28, 2011
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carnival73: With a bit of investigation I figured it out - I also know that it seems to feel that it has the right to tell me that I did something it didn't like and that I've got ten seconds before it shuts down and reboots my PC.
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JMich: Whoah, where exactly does this come from? I have never encountered this, and even if this was happening (and it wasn't something like Blaster doing it), a "shutdown -a" would abort any forced shutdowns. Can you give us the source of the ".NET is shutting down the computer" thingy?
It's a random undefined Service Host in your process list. I can't trace it back to a folder or executable - just open up Task Manager, start terminating service hosts and you'll find it.
Posted November 28, 2011
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JMich: Whoah, where exactly does this come from? I have never encountered this, and even if this was happening (and it wasn't something like Blaster doing it), a "shutdown -a" would abort any forced shutdowns. Can you give us the source of the ".NET is shutting down the computer" thingy?
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carnival73: It's a random undefined Service Host in your process list. I can't trace it back to a folder or executable - just open up Task Manager, start terminating service hosts and you'll find it.
Service Host (svchost) doesn't tell you anything at all. All svchost is is a program that knows how to run one of the many system services. It doesn't tell you which service it is running. Some of those system services are essential, and if you shut one of those down, you will force Windows to shut down.

if you're screwing with Windows services using Task Manager, no wonder Windows shuts you down. That's high on the NEVER, EVER DO THIS list. It's no different from reaching under the hood of your car and randomly pulling off hoses, then complaining that the manufacturer was incompetent because your car won't run anymore.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by cjrgreen
Posted November 28, 2011
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carnival73: It's a random undefined Service Host in your process list. I can't trace it back to a folder or executable - just open up Task Manager, start terminating service hosts and you'll find it.
So, you've been 'tweaking' and 'optimizing' your Windows installation to run faster?

I wonder what are you going to shut down if you install Windows 7. Regularly, you'd have 70+ processes running.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by kavazovangel
Posted November 28, 2011
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carnival73: It's a random undefined Service Host in your process list. I can't trace it back to a folder or executable - just open up Task Manager, start terminating service hosts and you'll find it.
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cjrgreen: Service Host (svchost) doesn't tell you anything at all. All svchost is is a program that knows how to run one of the many system services. It doesn't tell you which service it is running. Some of those system services are essential, and if you shut one of those down, you will force Windows to shut down.

if you're screwing with Windows services using Task Manager, no wonder Windows shuts you down. That's high on the NEVER, EVER DO THIS list. It's no different from reaching under the hood of your car and randomly pulling off hoses, then complaining that the manufacturer was incompetent because your car won't run anymore.
An official notification window appears stating that ".NET Authority" is giving you ten seconds to save your work before it reboots your system.
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carnival73: It's a random undefined Service Host in your process list. I can't trace it back to a folder or executable - just open up Task Manager, start terminating service hosts and you'll find it.
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kavazovangel: So, you've been 'tweaking' and 'optimizing' your Windows installation to run faster?

I wonder what are you going to shut down if you install Windows 7. Regularly, you'd have 70+ processes running.
I thought you were trying sell Windows 7 XD
Post edited November 28, 2011 by carnival73
Posted November 28, 2011
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carnival73: An official notification window appears stating that ".NET Authority" is giving you ten seconds to save your work before it reboots your system.
I really think you've got some spyware/ransomeware problems with that PC to be honest.

Are you sure it's .net authority and not NT authority? .NET shouldn't be able to do that.
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carnival73: It's a random undefined Service Host in your process list. I can't trace it back to a folder or executable - just open up Task Manager, start terminating service hosts and you'll find it.
So in short you know nothing about the internals of the Windows operating system yet insist on playing with things you don't understand. Please stop doing that.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by AndrewC
Posted November 28, 2011
The best way to learn about things that I don't understand is to play around with them.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by carnival73
Posted November 28, 2011
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cjrgreen: Service Host (svchost) doesn't tell you anything at all. All svchost is is a program that knows how to run one of the many system services. It doesn't tell you which service it is running. Some of those system services are essential, and if you shut one of those down, you will force Windows to shut down.

if you're screwing with Windows services using Task Manager, no wonder Windows shuts you down. That's high on the NEVER, EVER DO THIS list. It's no different from reaching under the hood of your car and randomly pulling off hoses, then complaining that the manufacturer was incompetent because your car won't run anymore.
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carnival73: An official notification window appears stating that ".NET Authority" is giving you ten seconds to save your work before it reboots your system.
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kavazovangel: So, you've been 'tweaking' and 'optimizing' your Windows installation to run faster?

I wonder what are you going to shut down if you install Windows 7. Regularly, you'd have 70+ processes running.
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carnival73: I thought you were trying sell Windows 7 XD
It's "NT Authority", not ".NET Authority".

This is the error message that you get when you have terminated an essential system process. In your case, it is clearly because you do not know what you are doing and should STOP NOW before you brick the computer.

It is friendlier than the result you would get if you were to remove a brake line from your car. But what you are doing is no less insane. NEVER, EVER DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
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carnival73: The best way to learn about things that I don't understand is to play around with them.
Actually, that is the best way to break things so badly that you end up needing to pay a professional to fix them.
Post edited November 28, 2011 by cjrgreen
Posted November 28, 2011
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carnival73: An official notification window appears stating that ".NET Authority" is giving you ten seconds to save your work before it reboots your system.


I thought you were trying sell Windows 7 XD
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cjrgreen: It's "NT Authority", not ".NET Authority".

This is the error message that you get when you have terminated an essential system process. In your case, it is clearly because you do not know what you are doing and should STOP NOW before you brick the computer.

It is friendlier than the result you would get if you were to remove a brake line from your car. But what you are doing is no less insane. NEVER, EVER DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
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carnival73: The best way to learn about things that I don't understand is to play around with them.
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cjrgreen: Actually, that is the best way to break things so badly that you end up needing to pay a professional to fix them.
So you've never broken the warning seal on your OS so that you could view the directories on your hard drive manually?
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