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Posted July 14, 2013
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keeveek: When I want to play with real people, I play board games. Because most of the people who play board games just want to have fun, while majority of people playing video games online want to win.
Ooh, yes. It's such a pity that boardgames really don't have much of a following here in the UK. Among the things I miss ever since moving abroad.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by Mnemon
Posted July 14, 2013
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gooberking: I clicked the link to see what the game looked like, now every time I look at the steam website it's in german. oops.
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groovebeat: curious. if i may be so bold, click on language (or "sprache" as we say in german) in the top right corner and change it back to your native tounge.

also... To the PIT! ... nice^^
You might call it my only tongue. We "Mericans" often don't have to worry about juggling other languages - likely to our detriment. As for the Pit. I Think I will go there now.

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langurmonkey: Sure, you can report stuff but the damage is already done...
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cah: Doesn't revenge make you feel better?
Revenge as a philosophy is part of what is wrong with MP, the Internet, and other dysfunctional communal entities.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by gooberking
Posted July 14, 2013
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cah: Doesn't revenge make you feel better?
Not much of a revenge, really. Plus ... I don't get the feeling most of us that dislike multiplayer ,due to the type of people we run into, are much into vengefulness either. And, most importantly, ban one and he/she's likely to be replaced by the next annoying person (or comes back using different handle / ip address if the blocking tools available to admins aren't particularly good). It's a largely pointless fight on open servers.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by Mnemon
Posted July 14, 2013
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cah: I call nonsense. Chess is focused on winning. In minecraft there's no winning goal.
Board games evolved a "little" since chess, you know? I play board games every week, and not a single game we play is focused on winning. It could be, of course, but people playing board games rarely are that competitive. They don't have anything to "prove", they just want to have fun. It's not seen that often in video games.

The one card game that is really close to video games is Magic: The Gathering. And I observe the same kind of horrible behavior between players who play competively, especially on tournaments. There are gentlemen, of course, but people get really really nervous and paranoid when it's focused on winnig.

Have you tried counter-strike or starcraft?
Counter strike a.k.a. everybody crawl almost in space waiting as somebody impatient sticks his nose out and then it's 3 minutes of shooting and next round? Been there, done that.

And starcraft? It's exactly that kind of game I hate. You either have insane ass micro and start attacking from the first 30 seconds after game starts, or you loose.

I don't feel like missing out anything while NOT playing those games. Maybe dozens of hours of frustration and boredom. Entry level in SC and CS is way, waaay too steep for anyone new.
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Mnemon: Ooh, yes. It's such a pity that boardgames really don't have much of a following here in the UK. Among the things I miss ever since moving abroad.
They don't? You should try visiting your local board games shops and clubs, there will be plenty of people who want to play and have fun. Even in Poland, where board games sold in 3k copies are called a success, I haven't had any problems finding people who play them regurarily.

I thought "in here, people think board games are for children" too, until I discovered I couldn't be more wrong
Post edited July 14, 2013 by keeveek
Posted July 14, 2013
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Khadgar42: That's what I'm talking about. Sounds interesting - let's hope it's not too expensive and comes to GOG :-)
It is confirmed to be released on GOG.

I actually have one spare key from Kickstarter and I am yet to decide what I will do with it.
Posted July 14, 2013
Personally, I'm not much into multiplayer games myself, but I get the meaning of the OP. I do have friends that are arguably less social than me, in the sense that while I'm traveling around and playing games in single player they stay home and play games in multiplayer. Unfortunately, the games they play (Dota, CoD, etc...) don't really interest me, save the occasional game of DoW 2: Retribution.

I've been trying to get someone to play Orcs Must die 2 in coop with me for quite a while, to the point where I even bought the game for them during a sale, but I ended up having to give it away here because I simply couldn't get them to play at all. And I wouldn't mind giving Borderlands 2 a try on multiplayer, just for the heck of it. Shooting things on the face works fine by myself, but I'm slightly curious as to how it would play with friends.
Posted July 14, 2013
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groovebeat: curious. if i may be so bold, click on language (or "sprache" as we say in german) in the top right corner and change it back to your native tounge.

also... To the PIT! ... nice^^
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gooberking: You might call it my only tongue. We "Mericans" often don't have to worry about juggling other languages - likely to our detriment. As for the Pit. I Think I will go there now.

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cah: Doesn't revenge make you feel better?
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gooberking: Revenge as a philosophy is part of what is wrong with MP, the Internet, and other dysfunctional communal entities.
I agree.
Posted July 14, 2013
Interesting discussion thus far, yet besides from Vitek I haven't found anyone yet who wants to play with me...

I'm quite disappointed with the reaction of my fellow goglers but I'm not giving up hope yet.

If you want something more oldschool to play there is "the Guild 2", but I think the Multiplayer connection sucks pretty bad. Probably in combination with Steam even more.

Oh and besides:
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keeveek: [...]
When I want to play with real people, I play board games. Because most of the people who play board games just want to have fun, while majority of people playing video games online want to win.
While I agree with most of what you said, board games and multiplayer games are quite similar, in fact multiplayers do feature more co-op gamestyles than most board games.
Additionally I usually try to win every time, especially with board games (except for monopoly or risk and other mostly luck-based games- with those I try to lose as quickly as possible)

The problem are the anonymous people playing it, not even the bad loser who start calling bullshit but rather the bad winners who ridicule your performance just because they have been 0,0010212% more efficient or maybe even just a tiny bit more lucky than which made them win the game.
Posted July 14, 2013
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Khadgar42: Interesting discussion thus far, yet besides from Vitek I haven't found anyone yet who wants to play with me...
liar liar pants on fire ;) as i mentioned before, i am very keen on trying out monaco.
Posted July 14, 2013
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Khadgar42: Interesting discussion thus far, yet besides from Vitek I haven't found anyone yet who wants to play with me...
I'll make you a deal. If Steam puts Dead Island on one of it's flash sales for 75% off (making it 5$) then I will be willing to have you show me how to properly put down a zombie. With the following disclaimers that it would be next weekend before I could make the time to do so, and assuming my Laptop is up to the task.
Posted July 14, 2013
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gooberking: Revenge as a philosophy is part of what is wrong with MP, the Internet, and other dysfunctional communal entities.
I take it you are not a fan of the concept of justice then. If facing abuse IRL would you take the QQ route too?

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gooberking: Board games evolved a "little" since chess, you know?
Enlighten me, please.

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gooberking: The one card game that is really close to video games is Magic: The Gathering.
Do you consider poker a board game too?

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gooberking: I don't feel like missing out anything while NOT playing those games. Maybe dozens of hours of frustration and boredom. Entry level in SC and CS is way, waaay too steep for anyone new.
Ahh, so it IS about winning for you. Otherwise, you would be treating every defeat as a valuable lesson, instead of frustration.

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Khadgar42: I'm quite disappointed with the reaction of my fellow goglers
I can see where your problems with multiplayer are coming from
Post edited July 14, 2013 by cah
Posted July 14, 2013
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Khadgar42: Interesting discussion thus far, yet besides from Vitek I haven't found anyone yet who wants to play with me...
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gooberking: I'll make you a deal. If Steam puts Dead Island on one of it's flash sales for 75% off (making it 5$) then I will be willing to have you show me how to properly put down a zombie. With the following disclaimers that it would be next weekend before I could make the time to do so, and assuming my Laptop is up to the task.
Agreed!
I just have to check how to match friends with Dead Island but as a "Zombie Put Down" game it's really fun, especially since you can be a melee character, bashing Zombieheads with paddles.
Posted July 14, 2013
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keeveek: Board games evolved a "little" since chess, you know? I play board games every week, and not a single game we play is focused on winning. It could be, of course, but people playing board games rarely are that competitive. They don't have anything to "prove", they just want to have fun. It's not seen that often in video games.

The one card game that is really close to video games is Magic: The Gathering. And I observe the same kind of horrible behavior between players who play competively, especially on tournaments. There are gentlemen, of course, but people get really really nervous and paranoid when it's focused on winnig.
CCGs are nothing compared to miniature wargames though, especially the ones like Warhammer 40K where you use measure to move the units. Imagine a group of people that spend thousands of dollars on miniatures and then hours upon hours of free time on painting those figures, crafting props for the game, immersing themselves in the game's universe, on reading guides and browsing community forums at work. And then those people move large part of their collection sometimes hundreds of miles away from where they live and all this only to lose the competition, because given the nature of such events only one person can win. There's nothing subtle about it, only rage.
Posted July 14, 2013
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gooberking: Revenge as a philosophy is part of what is wrong with MP, the Internet, and other dysfunctional communal entities.
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cah: I take it you are not a fan of the concept of justice then. If facing abuse IRL would you take the QQ route too?
There are justice people, and then there are mercy people. I prefer mercy, and things like giving people chances to redeem themselves. It's also how I would prefer to be treated.

As a side note Justice is not in anyway the same thing as revenge. Justice is about using just enough force to negate an agent of selfishness that acts against the well being of the community in order to reestablish harmony. Revenge is a selfish act seeking to apply maximum force to obliterate something that has personally irked you. It nothing to do with balance or community, and can even be something that causes cultural disharmony. In the end revenge is a rotten thing that pretends it's justice so people can feel good about doing something indecent.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by gooberking
Posted July 14, 2013
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uxtull: CCGs are nothing compared to miniature wargames though, especially the ones like Warhammer 40K where you use measure to move the units. Imagine a group of people that spend thousands of dollars on miniatures and then hours upon hours of free time on painting those figures, crafting props for the game, immersing themselves in the game's universe, on reading guides and browsing community forums at work. And then those people move large part of their collection sometimes hundreds of miles away from where they live and all this only to lose the competition, because given the nature of such events only one person can win. There's nothing subtle about it, only rage.
Oh yeah... Although I've seen more than a few people who play wargames, but without all that hassle. They come by to the local shop often. They have battles with their friends and have a good time. They play mostly to improve their skills, to provide some food for thought, etc etc. I can imagine what happens on tournaments though...
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