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cah: What exactly do you dislike in people that you like in AI?
AI don't speak.
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cah: What exactly do you dislike in people that you like in AI?
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wizardtypething: AI don't speak.
AI don't troll. AI don't use cheats. AI don't spam. AI don't abuse glitches. AI don't grief. AI don't act like 12 year old kid. AI don't vote kick you for making 1 mistake. AI don't vote kick you because it wants an online friend in your place. AI don't scream offensive shit on the mic. AI don't tell you how to play properly over mic. AI don't force shitty maps or mods on you. The list goes on.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by langurmonkey
Call me crazy but I enjoyed multiplayer and online games in general when they were considered "nerdy". The calibur of the players was much higher and I don't mean in their ability to play said game. They were just more considerate in general and could function in a team without worrying about what they were getting out of helping someone.
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groovebeat: i share your pain. i have tried a couple but never really got warm with them (players and games alike).
i was thinking about picking up monaco because i really like that game's premise though.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/113020/?l=german
I clicked the link to see what the game looked like, now every time I look at the steam website it's in german. oops.
I don't like them too, with only a few notable exceptions.

I played Worms World Party like crazy online, and Day of Defeat. And I had a good time mostly because of the mature and good community.

I played Killing Floor for maybe a dozen hours, but it was infested with teenage trolls. And that infestation seems to be my main problem with most of online games I tried to play.

Also, I don't really like the dynamics in online play as well. When I play singleplayer shooters, sometimes I like to sneak, to cover from tree to tree, etc etc. You can't really do that in multiplayer, because everybody's running around like angry dogs.

The same goes with RTS games. No real planning, no building up your army, only constant attacks since the first minutes. It's not how I roll, it's not how I'd like to roll.

I played couple games with my friends only online, like GTA 2, AOE2 etc etc, and it was awesome.
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groovebeat: i share your pain. i have tried a couple but never really got warm with them (players and games alike).
i was thinking about picking up monaco because i really like that game's premise though.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/113020/?l=german
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gooberking: I clicked the link to see what the game looked like, now every time I look at the steam website it's in german. oops.
Switch german to english in the link, and language will be set to english again. Or if you are bored, click here
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keeveek: I don't like them too, with only a few notable exceptions.

I played Worms World Party like crazy online, and Day of Defeat. And I had a good time mostly because of the mature and good community.

I played Killing Floor for maybe a dozen hours, but it was infested with teenage trolls. And that infestation seems to be my main problem with most of online games I tried to play.

Also, I don't really like the dynamics in online play as well. When I play singleplayer shooters, sometimes I like to sneak, to cover from tree to tree, etc etc. You can't really do that in multiplayer, because everybody's running around like angry dogs.

The same goes with RTS games. No real planning, no building up your army, only constant attacks since the first minutes. It's not how I roll, it's not how I'd like to roll.

I played couple games with my friends only online, like GTA 2, AOE2 etc etc, and it was awesome.
You have to play Suicidal difficulty or higher to avoid the teenage trolls in KF, man.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by langurmonkey
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gooberking: I clicked the link to see what the game looked like, now every time I look at the steam website it's in german. oops.
curious. if i may be so bold, click on language (or "sprache" as we say in german) in the top right corner and change it back to your native tounge.

also... To the PIT! ... nice^^
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wizardtypething: AI don't speak.
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langurmonkey: AI don't troll. AI don't use cheats. AI don't spam. AI don't abuse glitches. AI don't grief. AI don't act like 12 year old kid. AI don't vote kick you for making 1 mistake. AI don't vote kick you because it wants an online friend in your place. AI don't scream offensive shit on the mic. AI don't tell you how to play properly over mic. The list goes on.
Use mute. Check the server rules, and report if there's violation; otherwise, if you dislike something doesn't make it illegal. One vote doesn't matter.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by cah
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gooberking: I clicked the link to see what the game looked like, now every time I look at the steam website it's in german. oops.
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JMich: Switch german to english in the link, and language will be set to english again. Or if you are bored, click here
I already fixed it. Just thought it was an unexpected, amusing occurrence.
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langurmonkey: AI don't troll. AI don't use cheats. AI don't spam. AI don't abuse glitches. AI don't grief. AI don't act like 12 year old kid. AI don't vote kick you for making 1 mistake. AI don't vote kick you because it wants an online friend in your place. AI don't scream offensive shit on the mic. AI don't tell you how to play properly over mic. The list goes on.
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cah: Use mute. Check the server rules, and report if there's violation. One vote doesn't matter.
Sure, you can report stuff but the damage is already done...
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langurmonkey: You have to play Suicidal difficulty or higher to avoid the teenage trolls in KF, man.
Man, I barely manage on normal... But maybe it's because of the teenagers who don't understand the term co-op...
Ye. I dislike multiplayer too, by and large. Loved playing Counter-Strike (1.6) on a semi-private server (i.e. it was open, but not too busy and had loads of regulars + active admin that stepped in). Played a lot of Planetarion (the time wasted!!!!) as part of an alliance - which was a lot more about the banter and the occasional coordinated action). Loads of BloodBowl (err. FantasyFootball) via FUMBBL.com, too.

I dislike the competitiveness of most of the multiplayer environments out there though. Not in that I dislike competition outright, but I am more interested in having a bit of a laugh as opposed to being super efficient when gaming. Goes for things like sports (e.g. Badminton), too - being challenging is good, competition is silly. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, really. And of course all the worst of human behaviour out there.

I also dislike that most online gaming relies so much on action; on reaction times, often, rather than more deliberation [likewise do, by and large, prefer really good turn-based mechanics over real time ones].
Post edited July 14, 2013 by Mnemon
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cah: Use mute. Check the server rules, and report if there's violation; otherwise, if you dislike something doesn't make it illegal. One vote doesn't matter.
Why should he force himself into something he doesn't seem to like? You miss very little by not playing online, especially with the average player's IQ... Maybe I had bad experiences, but even in LoL... I played it like 30-40 hours before uninstalling it and never going back, mostly because of all the hatespeech, trolling, raging and all that other bullshit related to competitive play.

Also, what is the main difference between board games and video games - video games are so focused on winning, the sole games' mechanics are triggering all this negative emotions in people.

When I want to play with real people, I play board games. Because most of the people who play board games just want to have fun, while majority of people playing video games online want to win.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by keeveek
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langurmonkey: Sure, you can report stuff but the damage is already done...
Doesn't revenge make you feel better?

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keeveek: Why should he force himself into something he doesn't seem to like?
The point is, he shouldn't play on the server that allows the stuff he doesn't like. There's plenty of other fish.

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keeveek: You miss very little by not playing online
Have you tried counter-strike or starcraft?

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keeveek: Also, what is the main difference between board games and video games - video games are so focused on winning, the sole games' mechanics are triggering all this negative emotions in people.
I call nonsense. Chess is focused on winning. In minecraft there's no winning goal.
Post edited July 14, 2013 by cah