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Lorfean: I don't get why people are sooooo surprised by the online requirement -- the alternatives would be:

1. Separate SP (stored locally) and MP (stored on Blizz's servers) characters. In other words, you wouldn't be able to use your SP character if you suddenly decided you wanted to play with your friend. Not good. Incredibly inconvenient. People would never accept this.
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Pemptus: Really now. They somehow accepted this in Diablo 2, which had that system. And it worked just fine.
Plus, it is perfectly possible to play with other people using your SP characters (direct TCP/IP hosting or Open Battle.net). If for some reason Blizzard servers will go down, there will be no way to play D3 multiplayer.
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Pemptus: Really now. They somehow accepted this in Diablo 2, which had that system. And it worked just fine.
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Pustako: Plus, it is perfectly possible to play with other people using your SP characters (direct TCP/IP hosting or Open Battle.net). If for some reason Blizzard servers will go down, there will be no way to play D3 multiplayer.
I know, I talked about Open Battle.net in my original post, which Pemptus apparently didn't read all that thoroughly... In hindsight, I don't think it was a very good system because of how incredibly sensitive it was to cheating, trainers, etc.
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Pustako: Plus, it is perfectly possible to play with other people using your SP characters (direct TCP/IP hosting or Open Battle.net). If for some reason Blizzard servers will go down, there will be no way to play D3 multiplayer.
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Lorfean: I know, I talked about Open Battle.net in my original post, which Pemptus apparently didn't read all that thoroughly... In hindsight, I don't think it was a very good system because of how incredibly sensitive it was to cheating, trainers, etc.
True words. Yet it's another story - not giving the customers any alternative multiplayer option is never a good thing. Hope they will ensure superb level of security, it will be a real challenge in D3 now with the new auction house. It will be interesting to see for sure.
Yeah I don't get it either. People are gonna pirate the game regardless of how insane DRM these companies come up with. There will be a solution, and crackers will find it.

So the only thing DRM does is fuck over actual paying customers. Worth it? Don't think so.
Personally, I was never going to buy D3 anyway. I hate restrictions and I feel this is just yet another step towards forcing PC gamers into the "console" experience. (Don't get me wrong, I own multiple consoles and play them regularly, this isn't about that.) It's about consumer choice and the ability to do what you want with the product you purchase with your own money.

Always online SP could be pretty inconvenient for people who wanna play on a laptop during a roadtrip or in some other location which may or may not HAVE net connections or wi-fi, or even people who just frankly dgaf about multiplayer at all.

So a big pass from me. I'll wait for Torchlight 2.
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Lorfean: I know, I talked about Open Battle.net in my original post, which Pemptus apparently didn't read all that thoroughly... In hindsight, I don't think it was a very good system because of how incredibly sensitive it was to cheating, trainers, etc.
There's no problem with that if you play with friends. Of course, if you draw your enjoyment from _competing_ with anonymous people over the internet, then a publisher-controlled solution is preferable due to having better counters against cheats (though there will be cheats nonetheless through bug exploits). However, not everybody wants to play that way.

There was a time when games were meant to be enjoyed. With games like DIablo 2, I can enjoy them the way I want. If something in the game annoys me, I can even try to change it through modding, to increase my enjoyment. If I want to play Diablo 2 competitively with a number of friends, I can do so. If my friends and I want to have an evening of fun together with sillily high-powered cheated Diablo 2 characters, we can. Diablo 2 offers this freedom of choice. Diablo 3 doesn't offer customers any of these choices.

I don't see what was so difficult to understand about the other people's post. They simply have a different opinion than you. It might help to try to understand their reasons instead of trying to "fix" their opinion by misquoting so that it matches yours - just sayin'.
I am going to buy Diablo 3 and play the hell out of it. Which is no surprise, considering it's a Blizzard game. The character archetypes are so alluring, the setting so grim, the abilities so powerful, the twisted corridors so random...
Hell - I might even play with others at some point, though I'd prefer to go through the game alone the first (few) time(s). Fortunately - I can change my mind at any point, thanks to how the game's designed :).
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Paingiver: <snip>

That's it. It is all about alternatives and decisions left for player to decide. And now you have nothing to chose.
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Lorfean: I really didn't understand much of your reply... No offense. But I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think these alternatives and having separate on- and offline character types would have a negative impact on the game and the player community. I firmly believe that, in a multiplayer-heavy game like Diablo, the solution of having every character securely stored on the developer's servers will benefit the game and its players greatly.
And the most funny part of it all is i think you can play offline in cracked version. Stupid Blizzard only punishes the players who buy the game. Why the f..k i would buy the game if i couldn't play offline. I will go and download a pirated version instead.
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Lorfean: The game is not even out yet... How could you possibly know whether you would be able to play offline in a cracked version or not?
Which part you didn't understand? I will explain again.

I am just saying that OpenBattle.net and SP models are great. Because if you think OpenBattle.net has cheats then you are free to not play on it. You can always connect to Battle.net. But if you like single player like me, it is OK too. You can play SP and also join a LAN game with your friend or by entering his/her IP number.

And there is a third option. If you want to like play solo, but planning to go MP in Battle.net in future just create a character in Battle.net, play only yourself, then if you want join others with that same character just do it.

You see there is great flexibility and freedom for players.

I for example never enjoyed the Battle.net. Because me and my friends never cheated on game and we played it for 10 years. I hated Battle.net, duplicate cheat was everywhere. Everyone has had the highest items. Most of the users was some kind of cheaters if not directly because they were part of the dupe item trade system.
I'll play Torchlight 2.
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Lorfean: I know, I talked about Open Battle.net in my original post, which Pemptus apparently didn't read all that thoroughly... In hindsight, I don't think it was a very good system because of how incredibly sensitive it was to cheating, trainers, etc.
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Psyringe: There's no problem with that if you play with friends. Of course, if you draw your enjoyment from _competing_ with anonymous people over the internet, then a publisher-controlled solution is preferable due to having better counters against cheats (though there will be cheats nonetheless through bug exploits). However, not everybody wants to play that way.

There was a time when games were meant to be enjoyed. With games like DIablo 2, I can enjoy them the way I want. If something in the game annoys me, I can even try to change it through modding, to increase my enjoyment. If I want to play Diablo 2 competitively with a number of friends, I can do so. If my friends and I want to have an evening of fun together with sillily high-powered cheated Diablo 2 characters, we can. Diablo 2 offers this freedom of choice. Diablo 3 doesn't offer customers any of these choices.

I don't see what was so difficult to understand about the other people's post. They simply have a different opinion than you. It might help to try to understand their reasons instead of trying to "fix" their opinion by misquoting so that it matches yours - just sayin'.
You make a good point. Diablo III is definitely more restrictive in those ways. And although it doesn't bother me, because the game still very much fits the mold of what I look for in a Diablo game, I can imagine it bothers those to whom freedom in those aspects of the game are more important. Each to his own, I guess.

I only "fixed" Tormentfan's post because he was calling people who want to buy the game stupid. There's no need for that.
I've played Starcraft and Brood Wars and it was quite okay... Then I played Starcraft II and it was awesome!

I've played Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 and it was awesome! Then I played World of Warcraft and it sucked...

I've played Diablo 1 and 2 and it was awesome! So I'm kind of worried about D3... (but will buy it anyways ;)
im going to skip it too for a while(years) , diablo 2 nearly sucked out my soul , took a long time to quit playing that from battle net , it was amazing fun though but always online means bad lag for people away from the us west and east servers.
I have noticed people keep saying "I won't buy Diablo 3" instead of "I won't play Diablo 3"

First, I agree that the Online requirement is annoying, second I hate the real money auction house idea for a few reasons.

However that people are actually admitting they're going to pirate the game strikes me as utterly stupid. You disagree with the DRM model they're going to use. To fight it you're going to Pirate their game, which will only serve to Validate their ideology. And you're only going to fool yourself into buying it later doing that. Because you'll play it and if you like it you'll probably want to have access to all the updates and to multiplayer and everything else. So you'll buy it. And then bam, you've managed to validate the company's draconian idea of how much they can control their customers, while giving them money to enable them.

I won't be buying the game or playing it. And I could care less about the opinion that "they'll never notice if you're the only one" because I have my standards, and I can hold the smug opinion that I'm at least doing my part to display I won't accept this bullshit.
I wont buy it either (new anyway)

I may get it "pre-owned" if there is a way to remove the online requirement.
I had some mild interest in it about three years ago, but that interest has waned with each new piece of info. But then, I didn't like Diablo and I outright skipped Diablo 2, so...