Hey. not interested in the argument you seem to be having, but you do know that you can REPLY to a post? That would save you the trouble of editing the post to clarify for whom it was meant. It's a really simple system. Useful, too.

Also, your way is annoying.

EDIT: Oh, you seem to have gotten it in the last message.

No, games requiring Steam/CD key for multiplayer = NO DRM

Games requiring Steam/CD key for single player = DRM
Good god. How hard is it to understand that people aren't complaining about not wanting this because it's Steam only, they're complaining about the Humble Bundle's loss of founding principles and the bigger picture.

You keep using that word but I don't think it means what you think it means.

I think you mean "intrusive DRM*"? A CD key or a Steam check is certainly managing the digital rights of the developer/publisher, even if the game is being played by more than one person.

*Note that intrusive DRM's definition will change depending upon the person using it and their situation. An example: Steam isn't in intrusive to me. But if I were deployed to Iraq, it most certainly would be.

Dude, he directly quoted Jeffrey Rosen: "the polar opposite of what the humble bundle is about!"

Please guys, quit screwing the dead horse (is that the expression?). This bundle is selling like crazy. Proving it was right idea.

I already had this discussion. Check the thread. With EXACTLY that screenshot.

Beating a dead horse

I like keeveeks more ...

Everybody who is offended should just not buy it.

At the end, we will know how important DRM free is to the success of the humble bundles.

I guess you could use that expression every time a humble bundle argument crops up, lol.

By right, I hope you don't mean "all the games are DRM-free" because that's not what Kristian is arguing. For you to be right, there have to be games making their DRM-free and cross platform debut.

Whether it was the right idea, a good idea or whatever else, can we PLEASE stop with the argument that anything popular is correct? It's the stupidest way to defend pretty much ANYTHING.

No, the DRM was removed from the retail version with a patch. GOG's one was already DRM-free.
...that's because you looked on Wikipedia and someone has already updated the page. -_-;

yes, that the next HIB will be normal HIB bundle, DRM free and cross platform, and that HIB will not have any problems at all continuing getting developers onto the HIB (Cross platform and DRM free) bundles.

This has only opened up an option for HB to have yet another themed bundle, and there may be more of them also.

If Kristian is right this spells the death and doom for anything DRM free and cross platform for HB from now on, and they will not be able to sign up any developer for it again, NEVER.... also - GOG will go bankrupt within one year....

(SIdenote - I have been wondering if I should be mad that they only sell Android bundles as I have an iPhone. hmmm..... that's not very cross platform either, even though many of the games in those bundles are on iPhone also)

And consumers don't care about what their food is made of or how many jobs were shipped overseas to make their clothes or how many toxins were put in the water at the factory and whatever else. I am surprised to hear a European spout principles basically in line with pure free market Libertarianism.

Sometimes consumers don't know what's good for them.

I am not saying this is one of those times. For like the billionth time I said in the first couple pages most consumers would outright prefer a Steam key to a DRM free executable. I am just saying spouting popular opinion as instantly correct is silly, or else slavery and a ton of other shit is correct too. Hell Germany in 1935 or so proves how well popular opinion works as a judge of morality.

It's an argument that grates every time I read it, no matter what the subject.