Pheace: You could just be nice and spend a dollar for him :)

Idlusen: First thought: “Where are the DRM-free Linux versions of these games?”
Second thought: “Bah, bar SR3, which of these did I ever want anyway?”

I'm so disappointed. I hope it doesn't turn into an habit.

PS: the first thought is ironic, I do not expect these to go DRM-free, let alone Unix.

Foxhack: *Snip*
Pro-Pro-tip: Amok is a troll and a lot of us are sick and tired of his constant whining and threadcrapping.
*snip*

Khadgar42: Yeah, I get that a lot. Your not the only one not understanding the JuSchG (the laws protecting minors)

I blame Angie for a lot of things, but the censorship by the JuSchG and the Bundesprüfstelle isn't one of them.
As an adult I'm entitled to posess, play and buy any game (or media) from Index list A. Most of the games aren't bad enough to be on the List B which gets a tad more complicated.
Other Titles I can import from Austria, or the UK for my private use and it's not illegal to do so.

But STEAM is the asshole-company not allowing me to play those games because they don't care if I'm an adult and if I'm entitled to buy the games from Index list A or even buy them from UK to install and them in Germany.

Ergo, it's Steam fault.

[edit] Ninjad by JMich *tip my hat* well said! JMich

Foxhack: If you're angry that this doesn't include Mac / Linux versions, you can do what I did and donate everything to charity. That's what I've been doing for the past Steam-only HBs.

KneeTheCap: Amok is a troll for stating his opinions and even quoting a blue ?

KneeTheCap: Amok is a troll for stating his opinions and even quoting a blue ?

jamyskis: Just wanted to say this is fundamentally all correct. Saints Row 3 and Dead Island are both List A titles that can be bought and used perfectly legally in uncut form within Germany.

Dead Island: Riptide hasn't even been blacklisted yet, so not sure where it leaves that one (basically Deep Silver could still openly sell it in Germany).

Saints Row 2 is the exception though. It has actually been placed on List B and banned in its uncut form, although a 'ban' (Beschlagnahmung) in this context affects sale, not ownership. A ban has been imposed on selling the game within Germany, but gamers are still permitted to import the game and keep it for personal use.

JMich: Germany allows the selling of Uncut versions of games to adults, in the same way that pornography is available. Steam doesn't allow the redemption of uncut serials in Germany, even when legally bought. Is that Germany's fault or Steam's?

SimonG: Steam actually does make a criminal offence by doing this, as they do not have a reliable age verification. They don't really care about hose "youth protection laws", but they sure as hell won't act against the criminal code.

jamyskis: Dead Island: Riptide hasn't even been blacklisted yet, so not sure where it leaves that one (basically Deep Silver could still openly sell it in Germany).