They should make a gamepad where most of the functions were not assigned only to your thumbs.

Also, props to the Steambox controller to try to implement at least something more "mouse-like" for aiming games on a gamepad. I hope it works, and catches on also on other gamepads/platforms..

Hear hear.

IIRC, Quake 3 on the Dreamcast had cross-platform multiplayer with PC users, and the PC users using keyboard and mouse destroyed the Dreamcast players who used joypads.

Have you tried dedicated gaming keypads like the Nostromo or the G13?

If you're going to skip over basically the entire game, then why bother in the first place? Games like FO3 and FO:NV provide a ton of freedom while preventing you from completely skipping the game.

Yes, they do have issues about allowing you to skip parts of the main quest, but it's really not good game design to let a player completely skip the entire game.

Freedom is great, but you can easily wind up with Minecraft if you aren't mindful of game design. I know people love the game, but it's so open that the player is left to find a reason for playing and that's an incredibly risky move to make. That can work, but it can also lead to a game that's basically not really anything at all.

Yeah. Not many games were compatible (mainly RTS like Command and Conquer and Warcraft 2 and a few FPSs). You could hook up an USB mouse and keyboard to a PS2, but not every FPS was compatible (I know that Half-Life and Unreal Tournament were compatible, but I'm not sure for the rest).

Doubling the number of shoulder buttons was a good start. I'm not sure if the design should be different though from current gamepads so that all ten fingers could be possibly utilized (if needed), but then I guess gamepads are still evolving. We have come a long way from NES gamepads, or Atari VCS joysticks.

Using cloaking to sneak through every area isn't skipping the game, it's gameplay in itself.

Precisely, anyone whose worried about competing and leaderboards has relatively good gear, so keyboard responsiveness is not a concern for them. But I like my controller as well :] If I could play strategy games with a gamepad, I would (I loved XCOM EU for this).

There are plenty of games which have so poor plot they could have gone the doom/duke/painkiller route to begin with and forget all about plot.

"Bad guys over there - KILL KILL KILL! Far superior compared to "plot" made by game designers cousins friends cats neighbour who had supposedly DM'd PnP 30 years ago.

Anyways, shooting gallery games (COD-type) and more open world games of even same type are not so easy to compare to each other, as its also whole lot about personal taste.

I like both.

1) Most popular genre on consoles from Xbox onwards.
2) Easy matchmaking, easy friendslists integration.
3) Perception arose that people using controllers were "true leet", while mouse aim was "easy mode" meant that console version was "the real version"
4) Increasing popularity of consoles period..

...and then you have the really annoying games like the Trine series where you crave some kind of hybrid with an analog stick in your left hand for platforming and a mouse in your right for cursor movement... but the system asks you to pick just one device (with keyboard and mouse lumped together).

Grr!

Placebo, they think they are l33t... with that dere auto-aim on, hahahah...

i would not exactly call any of those games awful. Also they are very different kind of fps's.
1, 2 and 4 make sense. 3 is absolutely hilarious. Well. if kb+m is too easy, suppose they should turn off the auto aim or try to play kb+m with their toes or something.

"true leet" :D

I like playing unordinary FPSes on console, like Deus Ex on PS2, so awesome - you can lay back and play Deus Ex.