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tinyE: WAIT!
They introduce regional pricing and the shit hits the fan.
So they get rid of regional pricing....and people are STILL pissed off?

What do you people want!?

When your dad gave you a Ferrari for your 16th birthday did you scream at him that it was the wrong color? :P
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Pheace: Um, they did not get rid of regional pricing ...
Oh. Then void what I said.
Post edited March 12, 2014 by tinyE
ITT: Proving that it's impossible to please some people who will just whine about anything.
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Tormentfan: They lied by going against their written policy..

We're at the point in proceedings where this shouldn't have to be explained
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00dwan: They were looking to change some policies, so they announced it. Is that lying?
Umm.. informing us retroactively of the action isn't considered disclosure.


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Pheace: Um, they did not get rid of regional pricing ...
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tinyE: Oh. Then void what I said.
How about an apology too?
Post edited March 12, 2014 by Tormentfan
The only con with the reverse decision is now there is even less chance for games like Vampires to appear on GOG DRM Free.

But thats just my two cents.
Post edited March 12, 2014 by Elmofongo
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donsanderson: Wow, lot of "I"s in there.
Not much of a "We" person are you?
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Tormentfan: Did "WE" write it?

Why is it that it's the AMERICAN who doesn't have anything supportive to say about fair trade and non deceptive capitalist policy?

This is the exact problem in microcosm.
This American (and proud of it) was one of the first to vote against this move to RP!
But now that it's here, and has been explained in more detail, it makes good business sense for the future of GOG.
And for gamers!
Perhaps you should do a bit more homework before SHOUTING at all of us. :/
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Elmofongo: The only con with the reverse decision is now there is even less chance for games like Vampires to appear on GOG DRM Free.

But thats just my two cents.
Why would that be? The announcement yesterday changed very little for the publishers:

"Two: We will adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing. If that fails and we are required to have regional prices, we will make up the difference for you out of our own pockets."

That was the important part of yesterdays announcement. Aside from the addition of proper compensation (which was the biggest thing of note), it's simply a restatement of what they already said when they introduced regional prices. In other words, we'll do our best to get fair prices, but it's up to the publishers.

That hasn't changed.

So unless publishers have an issue with GOG diving into their own profit margin to make up the difference, there should be little reasons for devs not to come here beyond the ones they already had (like DRM-free)
I think i will be able to live without any Bethesda games .
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00dwan: They were looking to change some policies, so they announced it. Is that lying?
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Tormentfan: Umm.. informing us retroactively of the action isn't considered disclosure.
No, but it doesn't make it lying either. And they're still listening and trying to make things right. I actually agree with much of what you want from GOG; my disagreement is with your criticism on their efforts to make things better. It's not productive. When someone is trying to make things right, you work with them to produce results.
Post edited March 12, 2014 by 00dwan
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Elmofongo: The only con with the reverse decision is now there is even less chance for games like Vampires to appear on GOG DRM Free.

But thats just my two cents.
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Pheace: Why would that be? The announcement yesterday changed very little for the publishers:

"Two: We will adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing. If that fails and we are required to have regional prices, we will make up the difference for you out of our own pockets."

That was the important part of yesterdays announcement. Aside from the addition of proper compensation (which was the biggest thing of note), it's simply a restatement of what they already said when they introduced regional prices. In other words, we'll do our best to get fair prices, but it's up to the publishers.

That hasn't changed.

So unless publishers have an issue with GOG diving into their own profit margin to make up the difference, there should be little reasons for devs not to come here beyond the ones they already had (like DRM-free)
Thank you for the correction.
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00dwan: They were looking to change some policies, so they announced it. Is that lying?
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Tormentfan: Umm.. informing us retroactively of the action isn't considered disclosure.

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tinyE: Oh. Then void what I said.
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Tormentfan: How about an apology too?
For what? My being wrong about the regional pricing doesn't change the fact that you are being a winey brat.
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Tormentfan: Umm.. informing us retroactively of the action isn't considered disclosure.
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00dwan: No, but it doesn't make it lying either. And they're still listening and trying to make things right. I actually agree with much of what you want from GOG; my disagreement is with your criticism on their efforts to make things better. It's not productive. When someone is trying to make things right, you work with them to produce results.
Of course it's lying you fool.

If I sign up to use a service that says it does 'X', but then does 'Y'... they lied to me... What part of THAT don't you get?
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Tormentfan: Umm.. informing us retroactively of the action isn't considered disclosure.

How about an apology too?
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tinyE: For what? My being wrong about the regional pricing doesn't change the fact that you are being a winey brat.
Actually.. YOU were being the whiney brat.
Post edited March 12, 2014 by Tormentfan
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Tormentfan: ...you have compromised ME, by lying to me... Stick to your original convictions, or don't.. but if you don't.. you are no longer GOG.
I don't really think they lied or compromised you. Usually they are honest, although sometimes their plans need a bit of fine tuning. Maybe one can call them no longer the original GOG. But so what?

If you don't like them, don't buy with them, buy somewhere else where you like it more instead!

I understand that they have to make compromises between publishers and customers. And somebody always has to give. Obviously the publishers have currently quite the upper hand and GOG has to waive some of their profits but that should be clearly GOG's decision and responsibility, not yours.
Post edited March 12, 2014 by Trilarion
Oh, the ol "I know you are but what am I?" rebuttal. Made famous by my mentor Pee-Wee Herman.
XD Think I'll skip this argument.
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Pheace: ...it's simply a restatement of what they already said when they introduced regional prices. In other words, we'll do our best to get fair prices, but it's up to the publishers.

That hasn't changed. ...
I would say that what has changed are the chances that they actually can fullfill their desire. Before yesterday the chances were pretty low, now they are much higher because all the actions they have taken are aimed at levelling regional prices effectively and these actions weren't there before yesterday.
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00dwan: No, but it doesn't make it lying either. And they're still listening and trying to make things right. I actually agree with much of what you want from GOG; my disagreement is with your criticism on their efforts to make things better. It's not productive. When someone is trying to make things right, you work with them to produce results.
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Tormentfan: Of course it's lying you fool.

If I sign up to use a service that says it does 'X', but then does 'Y'... they lied to me... What part of THAT don't you get?
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tinyE: For what? My being wrong about the regional pricing doesn't change the fact that you are being a winey brat.
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Tormentfan: Actually.. YOU were being the whiney brat.
Um... making policy changes and telling you about it isn't lying just because you didn't like it. Where did they say they would never introduce policy changes? Please show me.