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Wow, Im missing a lot, need to keep up with this game better...
Okay its been suggested I give my reads/arguments on everyone so here it goes

QhostQlyph: good place to start after that claim. While the choice to claim at this time seems a little suspicious, I think its genuine for two reasons. One, her play for this game strikes me as overtly town (if perhaps, a little misguided.) Two, it would make just too gutsy of a lie. Ghost has quite firmly hooked herself to another player, if one of the two was lynched and flipped scum it would give town a second easy lynch in a row. Of course, she could be counting on that fact to gain credibility, using WIFOM, etc. etc., but I think the most likely case is that she's telling the truth and may have just shortened everyone's list of suspects.

Rooshandark: Doesnt seem to add much to the discussion, but he has that confirmed doublevoter ability to his credit. I still think that screams town, but I worry about relying too much on that assumption. Nevertheless, I give him a town read, for now.

JessKitten: This one is tough to say. Big fan of in depth post tracking and analysis, which is often taken for granted as a town read but as someone said earlier (or it might have been in the other game,) the mafia are capable of making strong, well-reasoned arguments too, and the long posts could simply be to counter suspicion. I also dont particularly like the way she continually references wiki articles and often uses WIFOM in her posts almost as a shield against arguments directed at her (everything in this silly game is WIFOM). This isnt necessarily scummy, but I want to remind everyone that the gameplay theory on the wiki is loose and easily subverted.

Vitek: Some specific actions make me suspicious here. Still really dont like the way he pushed the lynch on Day 1 but avoided voting himself. He has also recently been trying to make a point that hes an active player and posts far more than some other players, but looking back at his post history, many of those posts are one to two lines with little content relevant to the discussion.

Orryrro: I dont see anything as having really changed here. I don't see his claim as leaning towards town or scum and so all my previous arguments against him stand. I gave up my vote when the bandwagon collapsed, but I still dont quite understand why everyone gave up the pressure on him so easily.

Typhoon: not very active but then, the same thing has been repeatedly said about me. What really makes me suspicious about him is summed up pretty well in 286 and 287. The fact that he is so noncomittal and outright stated that he thought 100 posts into Day 2 was too early to start placing accusations seems to me like a mafia member trying to keep his distance.

Alright, I know that wasn't absolutely everyone but it was everyone who I felt I had something interesting to say about.
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GhostQlyph: I'm Jack Black, Town Mason.
Interesting, indeed. Now there's the WIFOM (sorry, Nazarush) of this being a genuine claim or a follow-up to a fake softclaim after I called you out on it; who knows.

The question I would like to ask you at this point is simple: does your role PM give you absolute, 100% conviction that your mason partner is town? I don't ask for any paraphrasing or anything, just read it again, very carefully, and answer yes or no. And if there is no statement to this effect, you must not presume he's town. There are mafia masons in this game and as Vitek pointed out, Zchinque has used that role before.

As an aside, Jack Black is the comedian / actor? Anyone knows of a Jack he could be theoretically paired with? I don't know much about him and wikipedia tells me nothing.
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GhostQlyph: Alright, taking a pretty big risk here but I feel things will go very wrong if I don't.

I'm Jack Black, Town Mason.

....snip
Confirmed - I'm the other half - I'm Jack White, Town Mason. I could go over many things that have been said, but I ask only that you go back through the posts with this information in mind, then see if I come up looking as scummy as Jesskitten is saying.

One more point - now you also know why I am Fixated on my Damnation theory - I KNOW FOR SURE there were 5 Town in that vote...

Damnation - dead, Town
nMillar - killed that night, Town
Roosh - doublevoter, almost 100% sure Town
Ghost - Town Mason
Me - Town Mason

Which leaves two people - Jesskitten and Orryrro. You seriously telling me there were NO Mafia in on the Damnation Lynch? I don't think so. I've tried prodding both since, to induce any slips, yes even coming up with wild 'slip' theories, and comparing Jesskittens posting between here and the other game.

One , or both , is Mafia. I'm 100% sure.

Just to clear up the Orryrro claim - I've been reading up on the MafiaWiki, specifically 'A Beginners Guide To Being Awesome At Mafia.' There a bit in there about Mafia and claims - I'll quote directly...

'If you are forced to claim before being lynched, you should always claim a power role unless there is no chance of your claim being believed.'

Now I thought Orryrro was Mafia , so I was expecting a power claim. His vanilla stunned me a bit, and lifted suspicion. The fact that Jess is using this 'expectation' as a tool to attack me I find VERY wierd, as she is an experienced Mafia player, and should know why I expected a power role claim.

My vote for Jesskitten stands - in fact , is strengthened.

(Link to MafiaWiki page, sorry my posting skills aren't great)- [url=]http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=A_Beginner%27s_Guide_to_Being_Awesome_At_Mafia[/url]

The bit i quoted is near the bottom , under the 'Begin with your End In Mind' header.
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Robbeasy: Confirmed - I'm the other half - I'm Jack White, Town Mason.
Jack White? You're not even trying. Which Jack White?

Incidentally, I think the weak claim thing Jess suggested above could be useful, now and in the future. So: I am a person named Jack. Not a real life person, a fictitious one. And fairly well known at that. Much more so than any Jack White I can think of.
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Robbeasy: Confirmed - I'm the other half - I'm Jack White, Town Mason.
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bazilisek: Jack White? You're not even trying. Which Jack White?

Incidentally, I think the weak claim thing Jess suggested above could be useful, now and in the future. So: I am a person named Jack. Not a real life person, a fictitious one. And fairly well known at that. Much more so than any Jack White I can think of.
Does it have to ba famous person?! I dont think so - I believe MOD was just going for the Mason duo thing, one Black, one White. Orryrro is a flag, for pity's sake, not even a person! Don't really understand what you imply here Baz..

You were quick reading back through the posts - or didnt you bother....now i wonder why? Surely with the new info revealed you would go back and compare me and Ghosts posts?

And - I believe my link doesnt work - i always have that problem...;o( Copy and paste the url to get to the relevant bits....if anyone would like to give me a Forum Posting tutorial, feel free
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Robbeasy: Does it have to ba famous person?! I dont think so - I believe MOD was just going for the Mason duo thing, one Black, one White. Orryrro is a flag, for pity's sake, not even a person! Don't really understand what you imply here Baz..
You're the first claim of someone who isn't (relatively) famous. I'm just pointing that out. Similarly to Orryrro being the first to claim a non-person (a famous non-person, mind you). So I take it you're not any of the Jack Whites on wikipedia?
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Robbeasy: You were quick reading back through the posts - or didnt you bother....now i wonder why? Surely with the new info revealed you would go back and compare me and Ghosts posts?
There are quick reactions and slow reactions. Both have their uses. Don't worry, I'll go back and reread, just not right now. I have an additional question for you: the very same one I asked Ghost two or three posts above. Can you confirm she's town based on your role PM?
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Robbeasy: And - I believe my link doesnt work - i always have that problem...;o( Copy and paste the url to get to the relevant bits....if anyone would like to give me a Forum Posting tutorial, feel free
Like this, just replace ( and ) with [ and ], respectively:

(url=url-of-the-page-you-are-linking-to)click here(/url)
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Robbeasy: Does it have to ba famous person?! I dont think so - I believe MOD was just going for the Mason duo thing, one Black, one White. Orryrro is a flag, for pity's sake, not even a person! Don't really understand what you imply here Baz..
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bazilisek: You're the first claim of someone who isn't (relatively) famous. I'm just pointing that out. Similarly to Orryrro being the first to claim a non-person (a famous non-person, mind you). So I take it you're not any of the Jack Whites on wikipedia?
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Robbeasy: You were quick reading back through the posts - or didnt you bother....now i wonder why? Surely with the new info revealed you would go back and compare me and Ghosts posts?
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bazilisek: There are quick reactions and slow reactions. Both have their uses. Don't worry, I'll go back and reread, just not right now. I have an additional question for you: the very same one I asked Ghost two or three posts above. Can you confirm she's town based on your role PM?
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Robbeasy: And - I believe my link doesnt work - i always have that problem...;o( Copy and paste the url to get to the relevant bits....if anyone would like to give me a Forum Posting tutorial, feel free
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bazilisek: Like this, just replace ( and ) with [ and ], respectively:

(url=url-of-the-page-you-are-linking-to)click here(/url)
No, there's nothing in my 'flavour' telling me which Jack White I am - I can only conclude its just the opposite of Ghost - Jack Black.

Can't confirm she is Town, no.

and cheers - we'll try that again then....

Click Here for the Mafia Wiki page!
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Robbeasy: No, there's nothing in my 'flavour' telling me which Jack White I am - I can only conclude its just the opposite of Ghost - Jack Black.

Can't confirm she is Town, no.
Very well, thanks for the answer. Then I ask you, Ghost: are you Jack Black the comedian/actor/musician or just someone called Jack Black?

Good to see we're finally getting somewhere.
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Robbeasy - 3 - Bazilisek, Orryyrro, jesskitten
jesskitten - 2 - GhostQlyph, Robbeasy
Orryyrro - 1 - Vitek

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
Post edited April 12, 2011 by Zchinque
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Zchinque: Votecount
Both jesskitten and Vitek are listed twice. It's true Vitek forgot to unvote before his vote for Orryrro, but jesskitten did unvote just before the Robbeasy vote.

In other words, was that a mistake or do we have more doublevoters?
Interesting development indeed. I haven't read everything so far but I'll get to it soon and try to reply to something if necessary.

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bazilisek: Both jesskitten and Vitek are listed twice. It's true Vitek forgot to unvote before his vote for Orryrro, but jesskitten did unvote just before the Robbeasy vote.

In other words, was that a mistake or do we have more doublevoters?
No we don't. Someone is just dumb and forgot to unvote.

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bazilisek: As an aside, Jack Black is the comedian / actor? Anyone knows of a Jack he could be theoretically paired with? I don't know much about him and wikipedia tells me nothing.
Only one I can at least imagine is the musician listed as first on wiki. He is guitarist and Jack Black plays guitar too and played one in School of Rock I think.
[This is a filler post, to let Vitek write more after he catches up with current developments without the fear of post merging.]
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bazilisek: You're the first claim of someone who isn't (relatively) famous. I'm just pointing that out. Similarly to Orryrro being the first to claim a non-person (a famous non-person, mind you). So I take it you're not any of the Jack Whites on wikipedia?
Just wanted to say that Jack White is most definitely famous - if you know your music. Every music lover knows about the band The White Stripes, and Jack White of said band has had some major influence in the music industry. Since both Jack White and Black are entertainers (you could even say they're both musicians, although that's not what Jack Black is most famous for in most circles), it's not too big of a stretch to say they could be related in this mafia game. I'm not sure why Robbeasy didn't mention of this though - the character description from what I've seen (which is to say, mine and Zchinque's in the OP), both heavily reference the real person that the name belongs to, like Zchinque's Jack Morgan - the banker. Weird that Robb kind of stumbled a little (or what seemed like it) when asked of his name...
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Robbeasy: No, there's nothing in my 'flavour' telling me which Jack White I am - I can only conclude its just the opposite of Ghost - Jack Black.

Can't confirm she is Town, no.
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bazilisek: Very well, thanks for the answer. Then I ask you, Ghost: are you Jack Black the comedian/actor/musician or just someone called Jack Black?

Good to see we're finally getting somewhere.
It's not outright stated. Robb and I are connected to comedy after some fashion however, so I'd assume so. Also, it was my own first thought.

I also am able to conclude that Robb is town from my role PM. The flavor text is pretty strong about that.
Okay, so we have two masons. I like Robb's theory about the Mafia helping the lynch, mainly because it's very unlikely that there wouldn't be at least one Mafia in on it. That having been said, I don't know who to look at from the remaining two...

Orryyrro: Made a relatively believable claim, which I liked mainly because it was different from the small group of claims that we had already known. BUT, we've had two more claims since. Claims which also follow a specific formula... I can't really see how he fits into the group, that's all.

JessKitten: Seems to be very eager for a lynch today, and seems to be particularly fond of trying to lynch our supposed Mason pair (which could still be a load of crock). Hasn't claimed yet, so maybe we should push for one? It would give a little more insight into the town psyche, and possibly give a tell either way.

Finally, to our "Mason pair". I don't know whether to believe that you are telling the truth or not. You can't exactly prove what you say, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now. But you could be part of a Mafia ploy to lynch the other two people on the Damnation vote... so lets be careful, Jacks. A claim doesn't really prove anything. Especially one made for no reason...

Speaking of, why did you claim, Ghost? I think that it's a little fishy that, as Baz said, you would follow up a soft claim with a more bulky one with little or no reason.