Posted October 28, 2014
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A bloody pirate!
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DarkoD13
No Strings On Me
Registered: Feb 2013
From Greece
Posted October 28, 2014
One of my recent posts reads "does tends". You learn to live with the shame. :)
Did you go dressed as Batman? :D
Did you go dressed as Batman? :D
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trentonlf
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Posted October 28, 2014
LOL, I should have. Of course if I had they probably would have locked be up since it was a federal jury I was in. I was lucky in that there were 25 of us and I was number 25. Jury only needed 8 and the lawyers did not have enough strikes to get to me :-)
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yogsloth
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Posted October 28, 2014
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Oddly enough, Hijack's impression of me being all over the place is probably pretty spot-on, lol! Maybe I'm over-thinking things, but nothing about HijacK has sat right with me from his "adalia is town and telling the truth about his role" post forwards. His big posts above add little except obfuscatory white noise.
Vote HijacK
Mrk, you yourself have said you disagree with me on my read on HijacK. Care to either re-evaluate or convince me I'm wrong? Who is your #1 date at the Scum-utante Ball?
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trentonlf
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Posted October 28, 2014
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That said, I don't feel confident enough to put my vote on any of them yet (I do not vote to put pressure on people).
Me claiming vanilla is a mistake? Why? I'm trying to figure out how this benefits the scum, and I can not see how it does.
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DarkoD13
No Strings On Me
Registered: Feb 2013
From Greece
Posted October 28, 2014
Would it be fair if I said that if someone made a comment like this one in the past ("If I was to vote someone right now, it would be Krypsyn, if only for his excessive lurkiness. I see him playing CK2 often, that's true, but it looks like he is just ignoring this thread altogether and some of his posts still doesn't fill me with trust even after explaining.") you would have torn them a new one?
Awaiting your best, whenever you decide to share.
Awaiting your best, whenever you decide to share.
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DarkoD13
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mrkgnao
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Posted October 28, 2014
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The scum want to night-kill power roles. Assuming 2 scum + 9 town left, and assuming N town power-roles (N < 9), the chance of their hitting a power role tonight is (N/9). After you claimed vanilla (and assuming you are telling the truth and they believe you), they now have have a chance of ((N-1)/9), which is better for them than (N/9), so you have slightly increased the chance of their hitting a power role. This would have been even worse if others had followed your example (assuming there are other vanilla townies).
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yogsloth
GRAAAAAAH!!!!!
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Posted October 28, 2014
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Well, I guess I might as well try to explain why I tend to believe he is town (though by no means certain).
It's primarily because I think he is very intelligent, yet thinks that most of us are pretty stupid.
If he were scum, I'd expect him not to do grossly suspicious intentional moves, because I don't believe he would trust us to see these as anything but suspicious moves.
1) At the same time he began hunting adalia (around post #210) he also posted his recipe for "bussing yourself" (posts #207 + #215). If he were scum and was actually beginning a bus on adalia, juxtaposing the two would be a very risky move. Too risky to trust us with.
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If I'm wrong about all this, HijacK, I'll buy you a virtual beer when this is all over, you crazy 18-20 year-old. But in the meantime, I'm still convinced you're playing scummy as all get-out!
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trentonlf
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Registered: Apr 2014
From United States
Posted October 28, 2014
I see your point on the power role. I was basing my position off of last game where I was lead to believe knowing someone is town was a good thing as it reduced the amount of people who could be scum. You and flub were touting that from the get go. Seeing how this is not a role madness game I can see how claiming ship models for everyone could be a bad thing that gets us nowhere. But, it was never my intent for it to be a ship claiming spree. I found it interesting that my ship model was different and said so. Seeing how everyone keeps focusing on this I should not have said anything, but again I don't keep focusing on this everyone else does.