Vitek, you wanted notes, you got them.


At the beginning of the game there was the small episode with Vitek's 10 previous games where he seemed to exclude the current one while talking about consecutive games where he was Town.

To be honest I didn't pick up that comment but a number of people found it interesting and focused some attention on it. Some of them marked it as probable bait. Fair enough, why not?

One of the first people that tried to describe it not as a slip, but a clever prod was non other than adaliabooks. Could it be that he was going with the flow and tried to associate himself with all of the experienced players who were smart enough not to fall for it? Sure.

Could it be that he saw it as an actual slip up and after some experienced people made a question out of it adaliabooks decided to try and backup his buddy? Sure.

Is this enough to call Vitek scum? Nope.

At one point in the earlier stages of D1 adaliabooks listed yogsloth and Vitek as his top suspects. Yogsloth was pretty active and yapped a lot (his own words :)) and initially lots of people had him under suspicion. It's only natural the scum will try to use this to their advantage.

I doubt one mafioso's (damn, I love that word!) scum list will consist only of other scum, but at least one for good standing? Sure, why not. It's entirely possible that either yog or Vitek is scum. I'm not sold on both, but I keep an open mind about it.

A bit later yogsloth managed to change his appearance and gain a bit more trust among the players. I can't talk for others but currently he's one of the less scummy, more towny people as far as I'm concerned.

That would leave Vitek. Again, not enough to even consider his mafia alignment.

But some time afterwards, adaliabooks magically replaced Vitek with HijacK. Out of the blue. Why? Is this enough to start considering treachery? Oh, yeah.


When the adaliabooks wagon was forming and a few people were putting pressure on him VItek joined and shot a few questions of his own. Good questions, actually. Vitek pushed adaliabooks additionally but that was that. He didn't close the deal with a vote, didn't do anything about it in the end. Why?

Vitek even stated the following:


And he never proceed with the vote. Didn't do anything afterwards, really. Just let it go by. Why support the lynch if you see it as the right decision and not take part?

I was scolded for considering no lynch at the earlier stage of D1, but Vitek didn't vote at all. How is that different? Other people missed the chance to vote because of the hammer or chose not to vote. Vitek was there when things got serious. He had time. He chose not to take part as far as I'm concerned.

Some may wonder what the big deal is if the lynch will happen anyway. At that point adaliabooks' cunning do-or-die ruse had already planted a few seeds of doubt. Even my own resolve was shaken for a brief moment. If adalia played his cards a little bit better he could pull it off, but he didn't try hard enough.


Then we advance to D2.

We are discussing adaliabooks, flub's demise and trenotonlf's supposed night episode. Not too much finger pointing or accusations yet. Not that much pushing people around.

Then I share my own idea on why flub was the NK target. His scum list from D1 which featured

Vitek (I wasn't suspicious of him at the time when flub made the list)
trentonlf (trentonlf has been on my list from the early stages of D1 and still is, but Vitek managed to made himself far more interesting)
adaliabooks (flipped scum)
krypsyn (I wasn't suspicious of him at the time when flub made the list and I don't really have an opinion of him currently)
DarkoD13 (I never saw him as scum, I don't actually see him as one now)

Two things happened shortly after I shared my idea. It seems Darko's presence in the list worried him a bit, so he jumped on me about the list not being a relevant reason for a NK.
He dropped it as soon as I told him I don't have a beef with him at the moment.

Then Vitek joined. He belittled my theory by being a jerk. OK, D1 list is nothing solid but it was the list of an experienced player and he died on the very same night. Why not at least acknowledge the posibility?
Did I mentioned flub's original vote on D1 was Vitek before he changed it to adaliabooks when the wagon was gaining momentum?

Things got heated up in our dialogue and Vitek started to question some of my own actions, including dropping trentonlf's as a suspect all of a sudden. I haven't stopped questioning trentonlf from what is basically the end of the RVS up until his night episode, but yet Vitek implied I had and started pushing towards this. He also demanded to show him where I told I was suspecting him on D1 which I find odd on it's own. This is a game where things change (or not) in time, while new information emerges.

Anyway, if all this was happening in a closed environment, on it's own, I would have respected it and taken it for an actual scum-hunting push. But it's happening in this context and I don't really like it. I see it as a try to discredit me. What if flub's list isn't that far-fetched? If you were scum and you disposed of the person who was on to you, would you just leave the one who picks up after do whatever he wants without saying anything?

Darko also shared a couple of times he thinks Vitek is scum, but he got non of the action I did. I said I have similar suspicions and Vitek was all over me almost immediately. Why so hard on offense so suddenly?

All of this doesn't look like much on it's own, but when combined it starts to feel real nasty as far as I'm concerned.

My current list of people of interest consists of trentonlf and Vitek, but I believe to some extent that they are of opposing factions.

I would have went with trentonlf originally but Vitek's attack made me think harder and look at all the information with different perspective.

With all that said



vote Vitek