Krypsyn: 4) Vitek -- I am amazed Vitek is this high on this list. He is here more out of default. I have liked his play recently, when we hear from him (hypocrisy, I know).
8) DarkoD13 -- Yeah, I have argued this to death in other posts. However, he is no longer my prime scum target.
9) trentonlf -- He has seemed to have blinders on, being almost entirely focused on me, the entire Day. This might be legitimate, but it has more and more seemed like he might be scum hiding behind a single vote so he doesn't have to voice any other strong opinions that might be used against him in later Days. I have been reticent to move him down my list, because I felt I might be biased by OMGUS, but this is where he fell out in this list.
10) yogsloth -- Yeah, if you don't know my reasons here, then reread my most recent posts.
I'll try to help again explain the "weirdness", by using the list above. But first, I will try to place my view in perspective:
Many of us have had to change votes “today” repeatedly as new information has come to light. I can only use my own reasoning as an example. I started Day 2 with trent as my #1 suspect, and hammered away at him accordingly. So did others. At no point, however, did he waver in his defense, or more importantly, how he “acted”. What I took for mistakes in play he continued to make even after having them pointed out, and eventually, I began to modify my view that this may just be play style, and moved him out of my #1 spot. HijacK, with his seeming anti-town maverick style, moved into that #1 spot, and I cast my first vote. Eventually, I got no support, so removed the vote. CSPVG became the group’s prime suspect for a variety of reasons. I generally agreed as he was my #2 at time, got on that wagon, and after the role claim (and subsequent lack of counter-claim), was forced to get back off. I returned to HijacK since he never left my #1 spot – a new wagon formed – and fell apart again when he role-claimed and outed sage.
I then turned to you, mainly for my perception that your voting pattern was random, and the reasoning you used for your votes too cryptic. I understand you are attempting to sway the group that this is mis-characterization on my part, so I’m doing my best here to break it down step-by-step. Perhaps even you will see my point of view.
So, here’s your voting pattern for Day 2:
Post 1072: Scum list includes CSPVG, Sage, Vitek, and Darko. You give fairly thorough analysis of everyone (I’m on your list as 2nd-place town), but less so on Darko himself, whom you then vote for. At this time, there were no real wagons formed yet (this is pre-CSPVG), but Vitek had two votes. I wondered why you didn’t vote for Vitek if you felt that
Krypsyn: This along with how he fence-sat regarding the adaliabooks lynch, and never voted makes him one of my top two scum candidates.
But you explained that you preferred to cast your vote for Darko, who at that time had no votes, and very little other suspicion on him.
A short time later, the wagon for CSPVG starts. You then change vote to Vitek in post 1107, with literally no explanation. After being prompted, you add your reasoning in 1111:
Sage103082: Maybe it is just late and I am exhausted, but can you explain why?
Krypsyn: One of my major complaints about DarkoD13 is that he was always nitpicking others, but never coming out with something positive. I even noted his stance on trentonlf (but not yogsloth) in my notes, but I missed it while compiling my reads post. By no means does this exonerate him, but he no longer is at the bottom of my list; Vitek is now (hence he gets my vote).
I wonder why you don’t explain things up front, and have to be prodded to explain your vote.
Then, in 1166, you change right back again! This is the infamous “dragon kill points” post. I still don’t know why you voted this way, but again you insist on being deliberately cryptic, instead of giving rational.
Post 1219 mrkgnao gives his best effort to explain the “weirdness” to you, but you mostly dismiss him one post later. I give my first shot at it in 1225, but it mostly goes by the wayside as the wagon for CSPVG really picks up speed after that. A wagon that, by the way, you ignore utterly until after the role claim.
Time goes by, HijacK’s wagon comes and goes (you do note that you would protest a lynch here, before his role claim), and after that falls apart, we all start the sorry job of just trying to avoid no-lynch. After I pick you, you (despite what you claim) make an OMGUS vote against me… yet another candidate who has little-to-no support among the other players. This, after you repeatedly put me near the top of town for every reads list you made for most of the game. I don’t know for sure what Darko or Vitek’s alignments are, but I certainly know mine, and I can only see this as further baffling voting behavior that doesn’t help the town’s cause in any way. Is no-lynch really preferable to you at this point?
Which now brings us to your latest reads list, which finds Vitek moved all the way to the town side, while also noting that he’s not posting. Because that makes perfect sense. Darko has been passed on the scum list by both trent (which is new), and of course, me. I interpret this that if you do pull your vote from me, you’ll move it to trent, who also has no general support for a lynch. What I see is that the candidate who was on your scum list that could possibly get lynched – Vitek – you are now moving off your potential list, and replacing it with two more names you know aren’t going to be lynched. Every move you make is to place a vote for someone you know full well isn’t going to be supported by the other players.
Weird. For your last point on me above, that I’m “role fishing”, I think I have pretty loudly and possibly even abrasively voiced my opinion that the time is wrong for a mass role-claim… and everyone seems to be going the other way anyway.
Mrk notes the difference between the younger and older generations in our perception of this behavior. Perhaps with age and experience, I too will come to realize that such vote-flitting with little explanation is pro-town. Perhaps not. But that is why you have my vote right now.
